up_the_irons: jpalmer: you should wait. unactionable tickets will grow stale...
spent too much money at Disneyland today... at least it was fun :) -: up_the_irons looks around up_the_irons: how's it hangin' in here? -: up_the_irons guesses everyone went to sleep... mike-burns: Or to work.
I'm near a Disney park, too! up_the_irons: mike-burns: you moved abroad IIRC? mike-burns: Yup, or in the process of it.
I'm in Paris right now. Berlin next week, then back to the US in August to pack and sell everything off. up_the_irons: Announcement: We now have an official customer VPN (OpenVPN with SSL/TLS), vpn.cust.arpnetworks.com. Not sure anyone here will have a need to use it, but it'll support the new dedicated server customers with full IPMI access and control.
mike-burns: sounds like an adventure :) mike-burns: Neat!
That's definitely what I'm on. :) up_the_irons: mike-burns: you going to be in the LA area at all? mike-burns: I've been following Ruby devs across Europe. Gave a talk in Amsterdam and in Paris, and next week I'm meeting a bunch of GitHub people. up_the_irons: Sweet mike-burns: up_the_irons: Sadly, I won't make it to that coast for a bit. up_the_irons: mike-burns: Let me know if you ever do, I'll buy you lunch, beers, drinks, w/e... :) mike-burns: Fantastic, will do, and for all the services you provide I should be the one buying! up_the_irons: No, no, you're like a 3 year customer or something, it's definitely on me and I thank you for the loyalty :) mike-burns: OK, it's a deal. up_the_irons: :) mike-burns: (We'll fight this out in real life.) up_the_irons: I got to meet some of my customers face-to-face at the last LADevOps meetup, was pretty neat to put faces to names
hahaha mike-burns: http://vimeo.com/45214727 - here's a video of my Paris talk, where you can see what a nerdy young hipster I am. up_the_irons: hah nice :) ***: nestea has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)
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HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks orion: Hi. What is the host OS on the ARP networks servers? tooth: That's classified. mike-burns: It's Linux. tooth: It's that hip new variant called [REDACTED] orion: Ok, thanks. CESSMASTER: so are you telling me my freebsd vps is impure? Webhostbudd: ha
of course up_the_irons: Until FreeBSD has KVM/QEMU support, it's gonna have to be Linux :) segv: it has KQEMU atm
its alpha though
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/emulators/kqemu-kmod-devel/ up_the_irons: yep...
famous last words -- "its alpha though" Webhostbudd: it would be interesting to see kqemu
dunno what's up with bhyve
anyone ever tried smartos?
the concept sounds pretty awesome but i wonder how well it actually works ***: heavysixer has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)
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Webhostbudd has joined #arpnetworks up_the_irons: Webhostbudd: never tried smartos... Webhostbudd: sounds cool but i don't think i would move away from libvirt
or try and run a solaris shop
it is cool that they ported kvm effectively to solaris, because then you get zones
and kvm
it's a shame linux really only has vserver jpalmer: up_the_irons: you should manually kick of a centos mirror sync. 6.3 is released! and I'll be requesting you to mount an ISO, so I can pull from your mirror. up_the_irons: oh let me see... -: jpalmer is hoping 6.3 works fine in kvm, without those tweaks I had to apply
jpalmer heads off to watch a movie up_the_irons: jpalmer: ok, i'll probably have 6.3 when u get back
Webhostbudd: i've heard a bit about zones, but never really looked further jpalmer: up_the_irons: I won't be doing it until tomorrow, I was kidding about manually kicking it off. didn't realize you were around ;) up_the_irons: :) jpalmer: I will be submitting the ISO change order tonight though Webhostbudd: up_the_irons: neither have i, i just know they are on par or better than jails up_the_irons: ok orion: Hi. How hard is it to grow a VPS file system? up_the_irons: yeah that's what i gathered too
orion: depends on the filesystem orion: I.e., UFS on FreeBSD 9.0 up_the_irons: orion: it's not too bad... fdisk, disklabel, then growfs orion: I see.
And such an operation is supported by ARP, correct? If I need more disk I can just up my plan?
(Without having to take down the old VPS)
The grow operation seems easy enough, but I don't know what qemu's limitations are. up_the_irons: orion: yes, totally supported. however, for those uncomfortable with growing their filesystem, extra disk space can just be added as a 2nd disk orion: Ahh, true! That might actually be a better option for me. up_the_irons: orion: just say so in your upgrade request when you email support@arpnetworks.com, and it'll be done orion: You see, I am going to be sharing a VPS with a bunch of my friends, and I need to figure out a way to split the cost based on disk space so that it's fair.
How much of a management headache is it to manage virtual drives? For example, if I bought a drive for each person, would that be annoying and time consuming? up_the_irons: orion: yes, we don't do that. if you want to do something like that, just create different partitions on your new second disk, or use quota(8), etc... orion: Right, I totally understand. up_the_irons: :) orion: haha, I've managed a server with this group of friends for... going on 6 years -- with no automation for anything except PowerDNS. I can only imagine how painful it must be to do VPSs for all of us. ***: ww has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) up_the_irons: orion: well, there's a lot of automation that I've built over the years, by necessity. it isn't that bad orion: Can I take a wild stab and say that you're using Ruby for automation? up_the_irons: orion: that's a big part of it; on the servers though it is mainly shell scripts (i'm a minimalist)
orion: the Portal is a Rails app, with arpnetworks.com being a Sinatra app orion: I have a special place in my heart for Ruby, heh.
Sinatra is a great framework as well. up_the_irons: i love Sinatra
Sinatra is shell scripting for the web orion: It's beautiful.
Padrino is cool too.
up_the_irons: Does ARP offer discounts for paying semi- or yearly? up_the_irons: http://support.arpnetworks.com/kb/billing/is-there-a-discount-for-paying-in-advance orion: oops, sorry. :( up_the_irons: no worries ***: Ehtyar has joined #arpnetworks
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It might be time for me to pay semi-annually.
Looks like I started with you guys in Feb of 2010 up_the_irons: We thank you for your loyalty :) phlux: Thank you :)
wow
7:41PM up 352 days, 23:49, 4 users, load averages: 0.07, 0.03, 0.00
Over a year of uptime on that VPS
I really either need to up my resources or migrate to a dedicated server to be honest
I know my loads are low right now, but my entire network relies heavily on my ARPNetworks VPS...If something goes wrong with it, my whole network dies. milki: bottleneck~ up_the_irons: phlux: our dedicated servers are coming online soon. I have one in beta right now.
phlux: u need a dedicated server for a 15 minute avg load of 0.00? ;) phlux: up_the_irons: nice! up_the_irons: (not that i'm complaining) milki: ol
l up_the_irons: fail milki: ^
its ok up_the_irons: hah phlux: up_the_irons: lol probably not, but I like to be on the safe side milki: i have an excuse
race conditions up_the_irons: phlux: roger phlux: plus, if I make it a dedicated server, I can run more things that I have spread out right now
i.e., mail
That's the one thing that VPS isn't currently hosting for me
Anyone ever used Matt's mail toaster on FreeBSD? milki: shouldnt it be runnign freebsd on a toaster up_the_irons: phlux: well, if you want one, it's $169 for: 3.4 GHz Intel Xeon Ivy Bridge, 16GB of RAM, 2x 1TB SATA, Dual PS, /29 IP block, 20TB of bandwidth, full out-of-band IPMI access with virtual media (bootable ISOs) over OpenVPN phlux: good lord@those specs up_the_irons: phlux: having things spread out is better for redundancy though :)
LOL phlux: That's actually an amazing price for all of that up_the_irons: I aim to please phlux: I actually have a question about redundancy up_the_irons: There will be dual uplink and VRRP also once I get my 6506 up and running
ask :) phlux: How is it that big e-mail servers (GMail, Yahoo) are able to have multiple SMTP/POP/IMAP servers that all accomplish the same tasks?
I've always wanted to have a failsafe mailserver, but I have no clue how to get all of the e-mails to deliver to multiple inboxes, and how to tell clients which one to choose up_the_irons: phlux: well, only one server is picked by the MTA as the final destination
phlux: oh, that's easy. you have one primary MX and then a secondary MX running as just a relay server (to the primary MX). There are several tutorials for Postfix on this (and i've set up a system like this once with Postfix) phlux: up_the_irons: So let's assume MX1 goes down for some unforseen circumstance. Your e-mail users would never know the difference? up_the_irons: phlux: that part of it (client access vs. email delivery) i've not done before, but I would think something like this would work: the primary MX stores the email on some shared medium, which can be accessed by multiple IMAP/POP/whatever servers. You'd make *those* access servers redundant using the redundancy tool of your choice (RR DNS, LVS, or w/e) mjp: having a second mx as relay only just means the sending mta gets to deliver on first attempt instead of spooling. you would still lose pop/imap access on your mail box... up_the_irons: mjp: see my last comment :) mjp: ahhh yes :) phlux: up_the_irons: That is interesting..I'm going to look into that this week and get back to you on what I did/used. Maybe I'll write a tutorial or something so others can benefit (should I get it working) mjp: i was about to suggest shared storage/mail box syncing etc. phlux: up_the_irons: Thanks for the point in the right direction - I hadn't thought of their being a single point to retrieve information from.
s/their/there up_the_irons: mjp: yeah
phlux: np
phlux: i think at the end of the day, there has to be this single point of info retrieval, and maybe that is sync'd / replicated somewhere for redundancy
brb phlux: up_the_irons: Indeed. It makes sense. I was thinking the mail would have to be delivered to multiple servers at the same time, which didn't seem right.
Roger. I'm out for the night. Later, folks! ***: HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks
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