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[10:44] *** ariel has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [10:48] *** HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks [11:04] *** qbit_ has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [11:06] *** qbit_ has joined #arpnetworks [11:19] hola [12:04] *** ariel has joined #arpnetworks [12:13] *** ariel has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [12:16] * up_the_irons looks around [12:40] * qbit_ backflips [12:52] *** ariel has joined #arpnetworks [13:19] *** ariel has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [13:21] *** ariel has joined #arpnetworks [13:25] our Ubuntu mirror is now live: http://mirrors.arpnetworks.com/Ubuntu/ [13:29] * jpalmer high 5's up_the_irons [13:29] not an ubuntu fan, but thats awesome. [13:29] are any of your mirrors official yet? [13:30] you of course are going to monitor bandwidth to/from it? are you giving each mirror an IP so that you can break the bandwidth graphs up into "which mirror is it" charts? [13:39] jpalmer: i've only announced the centos one to the list, but i don't see it in their official mirror list. i dunno what i have to do to get on there besides wait. i'll announce the others soon [13:39] jpalmer: i'm monitoring the whole box, but not individual mirrors yet [13:43] up_the_irons: native v6 yet? [13:44] jpalmer: not yet, i'm going to wait on that until I get my our new core installed (which will do IPv6 in hardware). right now, we do IPv6 on an OpenBSD router with 100 Mbps, and I'm a bit weary of pumping a lot of file transfers over it [13:45] for the centos one, did you announce it to the centos-mirror list, or one of the general ones? [13:45] centos-mirror [13:45] ok, cool [13:46] I think you are more likely to get picked up as a public mirror with native v6, since that is one of their focuses. but, I can absolutely understand you waiting until infra is ready. [13:46] I can't. [13:46] NOW NOW NOW. [13:46] >:| [13:46] lol [13:46] lol [13:46] jpalmer: yeah u might be right [13:46] and I'm just speaking of centos, I don't know what the other projects need as far as requirements and resources. [13:46] maybe i shouldn't worry about it... i mean, it's not like just b/c i open up IPv6, that there'll actually be a lot of IPv6 enabled hosts using it (unfortunately) [13:48] do you have to specify the actual IP's when you post to the mirror list? or just a DNS hostname? if it's just DNS.. you could always ad AAAA records, and remove them if you feel it's taxing you. [13:49] though, I'd ask first. they may forn on that if you are listed as a v6 mirror.. and only do v4. I know they have 2 seperate "mirrorlist.centos.org" machines. one for v4 and one for v6 [13:49] jpalmer: just domains.. good idea btw [13:49] s/forn/frown/ [14:27] up_the_irons: looks like a recursive ln -> http://mirrors.arpnetworks.com/Ubuntu/ubuntu/ [14:27] mikeputnam: yeah, those happen [14:30] mikeputnam: i don't know if that is harmful, but that's exactly what i get with rsync, so the file i meant to be there [14:36] gotcha [17:15] *** Ehtyar has joined #arpnetworks [18:24] *** HighJinx has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) [19:16] *** HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks [19:45] *** kraigu has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [20:25] *** pinkus has joined #arpnetworks [20:26] pinkus: yo [20:27] I'm aobut to invest some money for a C book, but was wondering is the K&R's version is outdated by now. [20:27] up_the_irons: long time no see :) [20:29] I heard conflicting opinions about it. Some say it was better when hardware understanding was more detailed. [20:29] pinkus: i've never read it, but it is considered a staple for C. So, YMMV [20:30] but unless you're going to do hardware or game programming, i don't know if C will be of use to you [20:31] up_the_irons: do you know of a book that would suit me? I basically don't have the knowledge of hardware and how to program for it that the older generation has. [20:31] i actually have to run, but perhaps others have an opinion? :) [20:33] hmm i don't see how K&R would be considered outdated. sure the coding style has changed, but the essentials are all there. [20:34] lteo: i see. so a detailed understanding of how hardware works isn't necessarily a prerequisite? [20:36] pinkus: i suck at hardware, so no :D [20:38] lteo: that is relieving. thanks for the input :) [20:39] pinkus: sure.. i'm definitely no C guru but that's the only book on C i have. the rest i picked up reading OpenBSD source code ;) [20:45] K&R 2nd edition covers C89. [20:46] If you master that, then everything else you're likely to use in C99 you can easily pick up from reading the relevant parts of the standard. [20:46] (I don't know about C11 as I haven't looked at it) [20:47] In terms of hardware, C knows nothing about it either, so you're fine. [20:48] In fact, thinking that C is somehow tied to hardware in a particular way can be harmful to your understanding of C. [20:48] CaZe: Thank you :) I'll take note of that while reading. [20:49] The most valuable part of K&R is in doing the exercises. [20:52] You won't learn much if the only thing you do is read. (though it's easy to trick yourself into believing that you understand something) [21:12] *** pinkus has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [21:22] *** HighJinx has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 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