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<br> niven.freenode.net sets mode: +oooo mhoran mike-burns up_the_irons toddf
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qbit_: hola
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up_the_irons: our Ubuntu mirror is now live: http://mirrors.arpnetworks.com/Ubuntu/
-: jpalmer high 5's up_the_irons
jpalmer: not an ubuntu fan, but thats awesome.
<br> are any of your mirrors official yet?
<br> you of course are going to monitor bandwidth to/from it? are you giving each mirror an IP so that you can break the bandwidth graphs up into "which mirror is it" charts?
up_the_irons: <u>jpalmer</u>: i've only announced the centos one to the list, but i don't see it in their official mirror list. i dunno what i have to do to get on there besides wait. i'll announce the others soon
<br> <u>jpalmer</u>: i'm monitoring the whole box, but not individual mirrors yet
jpalmer: <u>up_the_irons</u>: native v6 yet?
up_the_irons: <u>jpalmer</u>: not yet, i'm going to wait on that until I get my our new core installed (which will do IPv6 in hardware). right now, we do IPv6 on an OpenBSD router with 100 Mbps, and I'm a bit weary of pumping a lot of file transfers over it
jpalmer: for the centos one, did you announce it to the centos-mirror list, or one of the general ones?
up_the_irons: centos-mirror
jpalmer: ok, cool
<br> I think you are more likely to get picked up as a public mirror with native v6, since that is one of their focuses. but, I can absolutely understand you waiting until infra is ready.
jdoe: I can't.
<br> NOW NOW NOW.
<br> >:|
jpalmer: lol
up_the_irons: lol
<br> <u>jpalmer</u>: yeah u might be right
jpalmer: and I'm just speaking of centos, I don't know what the other projects need as far as requirements and resources.
up_the_irons: maybe i shouldn't worry about it... i mean, it's not like just b/c i open up IPv6, that there'll actually be a lot of IPv6 enabled hosts using it (unfortunately)
jpalmer: do you have to specify the actual IP's when you post to the mirror list? or just a DNS hostname? if it's just DNS.. you could always ad AAAA records, and remove them if you feel it's taxing you.
<br> though, I'd ask first. they may forn on that if you are listed as a v6 mirror.. and only do v4. I know they have 2 seperate "mirrorlist.centos.org" machines. one for v4 and one for v6
up_the_irons: <u>jpalmer</u>: just domains.. good idea btw
jpalmer: s/forn/frown/
mikeputnam: <u>up_the_irons</u>: looks like a recursive ln -> http://mirrors.arpnetworks.com/Ubuntu/ubuntu/
up_the_irons: <u>mikeputnam</u>: yeah, those happen
<br> <u>mikeputnam</u>: i don't know if that is harmful, but that's exactly what i get with rsync, so the file i meant to be there
mikeputnam: gotcha
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up_the_irons: <u>pinkus</u>: yo
pinkus: I'm aobut to invest some money for a C book, but was wondering is the K&R's version is outdated by now.
<br> <u>up_the_irons</u>: long time no see :)
<br> I heard conflicting opinions about it. Some say it was better when hardware understanding was more detailed.
up_the_irons: <u>pinkus</u>: i've never read it, but it is considered a staple for C. So, YMMV
<br> but unless you're going to do hardware or game programming, i don't know if C will be of use to you
pinkus: <u>up_the_irons</u>: do you know of a book that would suit me? I basically don't have the knowledge of hardware and how to program for it that the older generation has.
up_the_irons: i actually have to run, but perhaps others have an opinion? :)
lteo: hmm i don't see how K&R would be considered outdated. sure the coding style has changed, but the essentials are all there.
pinkus: <u>lteo</u>: i see. so a detailed understanding of how hardware works isn't necessarily a prerequisite?
lteo: <u>pinkus</u>: i suck at hardware, so no :D
pinkus: <u>lteo</u>: that is relieving. thanks for the input :)
lteo: <u>pinkus</u>: sure.. i'm definitely no C guru but that's the only book on C i have. the rest i picked up reading OpenBSD source code ;)
CaZe: K&R 2nd edition covers C89.
<br> If you master that, then everything else you're likely to use in C99 you can easily pick up from reading the relevant parts of the standard.
<br> (I don't know about C11 as I haven't looked at it)
<br> In terms of hardware, C knows nothing about it either, so you're fine.
<br> In fact, thinking that C is somehow tied to hardware in a particular way can be harmful to your understanding of C.
pinkus: <u>CaZe</u>: Thank you :) I'll take note of that while reading.
CaZe: The most valuable part of K&R is in doing the exercises.
<br> You won't learn much if the only thing you do is read. (though it's easy to trick yourself into believing that you understand something)
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up_the_irons: <u>lteo</u>: CaZe : thanks for helping pinkus. he's an old friend of mine trying to get into the software dev. field. we used to do javascript back in high school :) On like... Netscape, hah