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ariel has joined #arpnetworks up_the_irons: our Ubuntu mirror is now live: http://mirrors.arpnetworks.com/Ubuntu/ -: jpalmer high 5's up_the_irons jpalmer: not an ubuntu fan, but thats awesome.
are any of your mirrors official yet?
you of course are going to monitor bandwidth to/from it? are you giving each mirror an IP so that you can break the bandwidth graphs up into "which mirror is it" charts? up_the_irons: jpalmer: i've only announced the centos one to the list, but i don't see it in their official mirror list. i dunno what i have to do to get on there besides wait. i'll announce the others soon
jpalmer: i'm monitoring the whole box, but not individual mirrors yet jpalmer: up_the_irons: native v6 yet? up_the_irons: jpalmer: not yet, i'm going to wait on that until I get my our new core installed (which will do IPv6 in hardware). right now, we do IPv6 on an OpenBSD router with 100 Mbps, and I'm a bit weary of pumping a lot of file transfers over it jpalmer: for the centos one, did you announce it to the centos-mirror list, or one of the general ones? up_the_irons: centos-mirror jpalmer: ok, cool
I think you are more likely to get picked up as a public mirror with native v6, since that is one of their focuses. but, I can absolutely understand you waiting until infra is ready. jdoe: I can't.
NOW NOW NOW.
>:| jpalmer: lol up_the_irons: lol
jpalmer: yeah u might be right jpalmer: and I'm just speaking of centos, I don't know what the other projects need as far as requirements and resources. up_the_irons: maybe i shouldn't worry about it... i mean, it's not like just b/c i open up IPv6, that there'll actually be a lot of IPv6 enabled hosts using it (unfortunately) jpalmer: do you have to specify the actual IP's when you post to the mirror list? or just a DNS hostname? if it's just DNS.. you could always ad AAAA records, and remove them if you feel it's taxing you.
though, I'd ask first. they may forn on that if you are listed as a v6 mirror.. and only do v4. I know they have 2 seperate "mirrorlist.centos.org" machines. one for v4 and one for v6 up_the_irons: jpalmer: just domains.. good idea btw jpalmer: s/forn/frown/ mikeputnam: up_the_irons: looks like a recursive ln -> http://mirrors.arpnetworks.com/Ubuntu/ubuntu/ up_the_irons: mikeputnam: yeah, those happen
mikeputnam: i don't know if that is harmful, but that's exactly what i get with rsync, so the file i meant to be there mikeputnam: gotcha ***: Ehtyar has joined #arpnetworks
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pinkus has joined #arpnetworks up_the_irons: pinkus: yo pinkus: I'm aobut to invest some money for a C book, but was wondering is the K&R's version is outdated by now.
up_the_irons: long time no see :)
I heard conflicting opinions about it. Some say it was better when hardware understanding was more detailed. up_the_irons: pinkus: i've never read it, but it is considered a staple for C. So, YMMV
but unless you're going to do hardware or game programming, i don't know if C will be of use to you pinkus: up_the_irons: do you know of a book that would suit me? I basically don't have the knowledge of hardware and how to program for it that the older generation has. up_the_irons: i actually have to run, but perhaps others have an opinion? :) lteo: hmm i don't see how K&R would be considered outdated. sure the coding style has changed, but the essentials are all there. pinkus: lteo: i see. so a detailed understanding of how hardware works isn't necessarily a prerequisite? lteo: pinkus: i suck at hardware, so no :D pinkus: lteo: that is relieving. thanks for the input :) lteo: pinkus: sure.. i'm definitely no C guru but that's the only book on C i have. the rest i picked up reading OpenBSD source code ;) CaZe: K&R 2nd edition covers C89.
If you master that, then everything else you're likely to use in C99 you can easily pick up from reading the relevant parts of the standard.
(I don't know about C11 as I haven't looked at it)
In terms of hardware, C knows nothing about it either, so you're fine.
In fact, thinking that C is somehow tied to hardware in a particular way can be harmful to your understanding of C. pinkus: CaZe: Thank you :) I'll take note of that while reading. CaZe: The most valuable part of K&R is in doing the exercises.
You won't learn much if the only thing you do is read. (though it's easy to trick yourself into believing that you understand something) ***: pinkus has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)
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HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks -: up_the_irons looks around up_the_irons: lteo: CaZe : thanks for helping pinkus. he's an old friend of mine trying to get into the software dev. field. we used to do javascript back in high school :) On like... Netscape, hah