#arpnetworks 2012-06-28,Thu

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finkhi RandalSchwartz [00:00]
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Mouse103hello, anyone who have ipv6 on the vps. are you able to do rdns on your ipv6 range?
how can it be done? can it be done by setting up ns servers and have ns servers do rdns right?
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antMouse103: that is an option. you can also set ptr-records via the portal if you don't want to run your own ns servers [00:28]
Mouse103ahh
portal already have support for rdns for ipv6 right?
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antyes [00:35]
Mouse103ok cool
you get your vps after ordering automatically right? or just have wait for admin to setup you right?
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antiirc up_the_irons has to do something by hand [00:36]
Mouse103oh ok [00:37]
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ifthenOn FreeBSD 8.1 I can't seem to find my /etc/pw.config. Anyone know where it is? [01:59]
mike-burnspw.config? [01:59]
ifthenwrong filename probably but I got it right while searching.
For use with the pw command
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mike-burnsman pw might have the filename in it. [02:01]
ifthenI've been there and it says something like that is the default place unless -C is specified. [02:01]
mike-burns/etc/pw.conf is what it says, but I don't have one either. [02:02]
ifthenso I wonder how the command can work
without that file somewhere
maybe I should do a "find" for it.
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Mouse_I need to know if they auto charge to your credit card on your billing for invoices
or
you just pay the invoice yourself manually right?
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plettMouse_: My ARP VPS is set up to auto-bill from my credit card, which is what I want. I don't know what other options are available [03:18]
Mouse_ahh ok, I do not want auto-bill and I prefer to pay invoices manually. [03:22]
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up_the_ironsMouse_: you can't pay invoices manually, they are auto-billed
HighJinx: 130c?! dang
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springs is ablaze!
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up_the_ironsHighJinx: recommendations on thermal compound? [09:18]
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HighJinxartic silver 3 is the classic [09:19]
up_the_ironsHighJinx: cool tnx
HighJinx: how about 5? http://www.cwc-group.com/compound.html
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HighJinxup_the_irons i guess thats better
theres this new stuff too, sec for link
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tooth5 is a bigger number! It must be better! [09:28]
HighJinxup_the_irons : http://indigo-xtreme.com/ [09:28]
up_the_irons:)
HighJinx: ah cool tnx
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HighJinx: that stuff looks good, i'm gonna try some [09:33]
oh, looks like that stuff is best for extreme overclocking
"If you operate your CPU at stock wattages and frequencies, Indigo Xtreme™ may not provide significant advantage, and a legacy solution may be adequate for your needs."
-- http://indigo-xtreme.com/comparison.html
maybe i should try to overclock the 3.4GHz ivy bridge i want to use it on... ;)
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HighJinxup_the_irons : heres a graph of pretty much all the thermal pastes : http://www.frozencpu.com/images/awards/Skinneelabs%20TIMOverallTempa.jpg [10:19]
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rykup_the_irons: i don't have everything spec'd out yet, but probably something like this: http://amzn.com/B004IXYCOA [10:42]
finkdoes randallschwartz come here anymore? [10:45]
jpalmerfink: yea [10:45]
finkhi jpalmer
i saw that randallschwartz had successfully resized his freebsd zfs partition here: http://irclogger.arpnetworks.com/irclogger_log/arpnetworks?date=2011-06-25,Sat
bottom of the page
i wanted to ask him how it's holding up
i want to do the same
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jpalmerahh, I still have no experience with zfs, so.. Dunno the answer ;) [10:50]
finkwish he'd blog about it ;) [10:52]
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finkup_the_irons: hi, i just emailed you. if you could help me out asap, that'd be awesome!! [13:58]
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finkup_the_irons: emailed with correct info [14:18]
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milkilol [14:26]
finkjpalmer: in case you're wondering, i got stuck on booting from the fixit dvd
my system was 8.3, which has a later version of ifs (28)
the dvd available from arpnetworks was 8.0; so of course, the utilities on the dvd can't work with zfs28
in retrospect, i should have asked for the latest dvd before starting
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up_the_ironsHighJinx: AS 5 doesn't come in very good
fink: i replied
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finkup_the_irons: got it, thanks [14:33]
up_the_ironsnp [14:33]
HighJinxup_the_irons yea, past few years alot of makers been doin new tims [14:33]
up_the_ironsHighJinx: think i'll try some Phobya HeGrease Extreme [14:35]
HighJinxup_the_irons: slick, ive been wanting to get some of thier case fans. they are some of the best next to noctua [14:36]
up_the_ironsHighJinx: ah nice [14:37]
finkcrap…"all blocks unavailable" [14:46]
up_the_ironsHighJinx: those Noctua fans are pretty sweet; been reading some reviews... [14:49]
HighJinxthey have the new noise eliminator ones too [14:49]
up_the_ironsHighJinx: yeah i think this is one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608004
HighJinx: the reviews say they can't even hear it going
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HighJinxyep i have 2x 98mm versions on my 771's
up_the_irons : http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=productview&products_id=32&lng=en
they are massive!
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up_the_ironsHighJinx: holy crap!! [14:52]
HighJinxyea and its not the big ones [14:52]
up_the_ironslol
HighJinx: how do you even mount that to the cpu? seems like there is no room for a screwdriver
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HighJinxyou see the special half moons in the outside fins? [14:53]
up_the_ironsoh yeah [14:53]
HighJinxyou install these arms to the hs then bolt it on like a normal hs
they are slick you can pretty much mount them any direction you want
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up_the_ironsah ok
nice
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HighJinx: who makes a good case w/ a low noise ps? [15:01]
HighJinxup_the_irons what kind of case? [15:01]
up_the_ironsHighJinx: like a mid tower, plain old desktop machine [15:02]
HighJinxive always liked silverstone
some say lian-li but i hate them with a passion
of course it always just comes down to the psu. you can get silent fanless ones liek the silverstone nightjar
my silverstone decathlon 1kw psu is silent, w/ 1 huge 120mm fan
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up_the_ironsHighJinx: so it's silent even with the fan? [15:13]
HighJinxseasoic are supposed to have some of the quietest
yea, im using less than half of what the psu can do most the time so its not heating up
seasonic**
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up_the_ironsah cool [15:13]
jpalmerhttp://s1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg622/palmerit/Temporary/ <-- new corals I got today. don't think most are going to make it :/ [15:26]
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up_the_ironsHighJinx: would you go with Dynatron 1U heatsink or Cooljag? [15:42]
HighJinxniether, both are made by the same ppl and are super loud
liek jets
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up_the_ironsHighJinx: looking at the passive ones [15:43]
HighJinxahh then dynatron has some awesome full copper blocks [15:43]
up_the_ironsHighJinx: ok cool
it's awesome that frozencpu.com has a "Caffeine" category among all their computer parts
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HighJinxup_the_irons they are killer on shipping tho. theres a clone company performance-pcs.com also which has the same stuff as frozencpu but sometimes cheaper. [16:00]
jdoewonder if there's anything similar that wouldn't be cross-border shipping [16:10]
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HighJinxjdoe to where? [16:43]
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up_the_ironsHighJinx: yeah, i noticed the shipping was bad, so i ordered a few more things... ;) i don't wanna pay $4 to ship an $8 item [16:44]
HighJinxup_the_irons yea i have the same mentality w/ places like that. might as well make it worth it. [16:45]
up_the_ironsHighJinx: I had the best experience with CWC Group though.. i ordered something at 3pm, got it 8am the next day. i swear that is faster than newegg
HighJinx: yep
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HighJinxif you order newegg before noon you can get it same day
;)
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up_the_ironsHighJinx: that has not worked for me in practice though ;) [16:45]
ifthenhttp://www.unix.com/man-page/FreeBSD/5/pw.conf [16:46]
HighJinxup_the_irons yea its the luck of the draw and the warehouse you get
up_the_irons : i just picked up one of these : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834131249
basically last gen guts of a macbook air
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ifthenDoes a new FreeBSD 9 VPS have this file on board?
HigJinx that's quite a deal. What do you run on it?
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HighJinx I have never seen xterm on the MacBook air with normal size fonts. At the mac store, they can't show normal size. [16:55]
HighJinxifthen, just windows 7 home premium 64bit, nothing special just a daily websurfin machine [16:55]
up_the_ironsHighJinx: nice! [16:55]
ifthenI wish I could find the right laptop for xterm to access arp
Asked Lenovo online about FreeBSD support and they referred me to support. Sales didn
t want to be specific.
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HighJinxosx is based on FreeBSD [16:59]
ifthenI would love to go all FreeBSD, HighJinx [17:00]
HighJinxhehe [17:00]
ifthenUTI do you know offhand if the 9 distro has pw.conf the file as part of basic setup? [17:02]
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ifthenWould be grateful if someone here with FreeBSD 9 installed and running here at arpnetworks would check for the presence of the file /etc.pw.conf [17:58]
milkio.O
wouldnt some #freebsd channel be better?
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ifthenthat should be /etc/pw.conf
milki why?
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milkimore people might be running fbsd 9 there
milki only has fbsd 8
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ifthenbut it is this specific install I am interested in. [18:00]
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milkio.O
i thought the only image provided by arpnetworks was fbsd 8
ya, 7.2,8.2
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ifthenmilki I believe 9 is available. [18:01]
milkiotherwise, install it yourself
if you install it yourself, then any generic fbsd 9 would work for you...
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ifthenI'm looking for the easy way [18:02]
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up_the_ironsifthen: milki : freebsd 9 is not available as a "hands free" install, only by ISO [18:30]
milkiya, so i dont understand why ifthen is asking here -.- [18:31]
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ifthenup_the_irons thanks for clarity. Is it normal to have a missing /etc/pw.conf file on the FreeBSD 8.1 and 8.2 versions arp supplies? [19:57]
mhoranpw.conf? I don't have one of those. [19:59]
jpalmerifthen: what specifically are you trying to do? you've been asking about this pw.conf file for.. a while [20:00]
ifthenI want to use pw on the next upgrade I set up and avoid the disaster of the last setup. I can't use pw if it's broken. [20:01]
mhoranpw works for me. [20:02]
jpalmerhow is pw broken? [20:02]
ifthenstrange it works with a missin file [20:02]
jpalmerwhat is it doing that it shouldn't be, or not doing that it should? [20:03]
ifthenThat was months ago and I don't remember.
So why really is it not there? Man says it is normal to be there.
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jpalmerwhat version of fbsd are you using? [20:04]
ifthen8.1 [20:04]
jpalmerhttp://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/etc/?only_with_tag=RELENG_8_1_0_RELEASE
there is no default pw.conf, in 8.1
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ifthenok at last I get it. when is it default? [20:06]
jpalmerso, with that in mind. how is pw broken? what is it doing that it shouldn't? or what is it not doing that it should?
what *specifically* is the problem you are trying to resolve?
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mhoran"While most of the contents of the configuration file may be overridden via command-line options, it may be more convenient to keep standard information in a configuration file. [20:06]
ifthenI just want to make sure that i have a working pw file for my next upgrade so pw works flawlessly.
pw.conf
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jpalmerok, so again.. what is it not doing, or doing that makes you think it's broken?
jpalmer starts to feel like a broken record
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finkso after upgrading my zfspools and expanding to use the entire disk, it appears that gparts boot code command fuxxored my /boot/loader.conf [20:08]
ifthenEvents I have forgotten. [20:08]
jpalmerok, so you currently have *no* issues with pw? [20:08]
finkwhich led to the error: "ZFS: i/o error - all block copies unavailable" [20:08]
mhoranSo far as I can tell, from that repo, there has neve rbeen a pw.conf in base. [20:09]
ifthenright jpalmer and I don't want any when i upgrade and thanks for your info [20:09]
finkunfortunately, trying to echo the proper settings into loader.conf from the fixit command line gave me a corrupted file, so i had to entire everything by hand over vnc at the boot prompt
which was fun
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jpalmerifthen: so you are trying to resolve a problem that doesn't exist? [20:10]
finkoh yea, and gpart also erased my zfs cache file [20:10]
ifthenit's called foresight in my book. [20:11]
jpalmerwell, I think you have your answer regardless. there is no pw.conf by default. if you want one for whatever reason (that you've yet to explain) feel free to make one
fink: are you up and running now?
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finkjpalmer: to some degree, cherokee has decided to conk out, but at least the base system with openvpn is running
goddamn that took forever
hmm, probably has something to do with "Could not create semaphore: No space left on device"
which makes sense, because the kern.ipc settings were in my loader.conf
what fun
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finkcya jpalmer [21:30]
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