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[03:18] <up_the_irons> dr_jkl: i'll have that iso changed for you, worry not...
[05:07] <phlux> Meh
[05:07] <phlux> I just yelled at some lady on the phone at PayPal
[05:07] <phlux> I threatened to call my lawyer, talk to the DA, contact the BBB
[05:08] <phlux> I bet my account gets flagged or something now, and I'll have to wait even longer for my money to be released. The money in question? A REFUND FROM WOOT.COM.
[05:08] <phlux> Who puts a hold on a REFUND?
[05:25] <kraigu> refunds are common in fraud cases
[05:25] <kraigu> I believe, anyway... I've certainly seen it a couple of times.
[05:29] <phlux> Well, regardless, I'll be leaving paypal after this incident is cleared up.
[05:29] <phlux> I feel bad for the woman on the other end of the phone, though
[05:29] <phlux> I apologized to her at the end
[05:30] <phlux> I tried to keep my cool until she started reading from her script
[05:30] <phlux> Once she started feeding me the exact same BS the other guy did on Monday (word for word) I lost it.
[05:37] <mike-burns> Leaving PayPal for what?
[05:40] <phlux> Google Checkout, I guess.
[05:40] <phlux> I'm figuring if I don't trust you with my CC information, and you don't accept Google Checkout, you just won't get my business.
[05:41] <phlux> and I'll write e-mails stating as such, in hopes to get businesses to accept more payment methods.
[05:42] <kraigu> ya, fair enough
[05:42] <mike-burns> Good luck.
[05:42] <mike-burns> I recently worked on a payment method (a client app), so throw LevelUp into the mix if you want.
[05:43] <mike-burns> I can confirm that they are very paranoid.
[05:46] <phlux> LevelUp eh
[05:46] <phlux> Interesting - I've not heard of them
[05:47] <mike-burns> It's a crowded market, but they're big in Boston and growing in SF and NYC. No EU presence.
[05:49] <mike-burns> They have some fancy 0-clicks online purchase system that they demo'ed at that technology/art conference in Austin.
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[07:16] <up_the_irons> i have not heard of LevelUp either
[07:16] * up_the_irons googles
[07:17] <up_the_irons> oh, looks cool
[07:17] <up_the_irons> every since i could pay at Starbucks with my phone, i wanted that EVERYWHERE
[07:18] <mike-burns> Well, come to Boston and you can do that.
[07:18] <up_the_irons> Channel announce (for those who don't follow @bsdvps or @arpnetworks): OpenBSD 5.1 templates are ready, and available to order (or re-image)
[07:18] <up_the_irons> *announcement
[07:18] <up_the_irons> bah
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[07:26] <ryk> up_the_irons: do you disable mpbios in the image?
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[10:28] <dr_jkl> up_the_irons: thank you sir :D
[10:29] <dr_jkl> up_the_irons: wasn't mad or anything, i was just like o.O i've never had to ask them for anything before o.O
[10:41] <dr_jkl> of course,  now i have to figure out what it is about TightVNC that makes your console server give me the middle finger.. :)
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[11:51] <segv> Hey, how do I get you guys to reimage a vps for me?
[11:51] <segv> Just to a stock deb6
[11:52] <mike-burns> Email support@ .
[11:52] <segv> roger
[11:53] <segv> and or do you guys support the latest LTS?
[11:54] <mike-burns> http://goo.gl/D7Cqd - approximately: just as much as anything else.
[11:54] <segv> good deal
[11:55] <mike-burns> If you link to an ISO in your support request, they can put that ISO in.
[11:57] <segv> already done, cool
[11:57] <segv> yeah, had freebsd 9 on my fiances business site, just getting sick of maintaining ports :)
[11:57] <segv> Felt like back in the good ole gentoo days writing patches for #love-sources (now defunct)
[11:58] <mike-burns> Sure, I can see that.
[11:58] <mike-burns> OpenBSD's pkg_add is really nice in that regard.
[11:58] <segv> yeah
[11:58] <segv> I mean you can pkg_add -r in freebsd as well.
[11:58] <segv> Just, half the time specific packages or modules are non-existant.
[11:58] <segv> So when you have a mix of binary packages and ports rebuilds, things get hectic and break during updates.
[11:59] <RandalSchwartz> packages are what you use before you realize how messed up they are. :)
[11:59] <segv> yep
[11:59] <segv> then it takes 5 hours to update your install
[11:59] <segv> haha
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[12:54] <pjs> up_the_irons I just sent you yet another customer (Marcel Chastain, he just ordered).. that's like 4-5 guys I've sent you.. where's my tshirt?
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[13:04] <phlux> lol
[13:04] <jdoe> pjs: do you not have one of the HE ipv6 shirts? you'll never need another tshirt again.
[13:05] <jdoe> suitable for weddings, funerals... funerdings....
[13:06] <phlux> lol
[13:11] <pjs> haha
[13:11] <pjs> I don't have any shirts
[13:11] <pjs> up_the_irons kept saying I'd get one for every referral.. I'm a few deep now ;)
[13:11] <pjs> and mostly I'm just giving him shit
[13:11] <pjs> great service at a fair price is my reward
[13:12] <pjs> </commercial>
[13:12] <jdoe> no I get it, I just wanted to riff on the horror of those shirts :P
[13:12] <pjs> hah
[13:12] <pjs> since IPv6 was brought up.. any good tutorials on getting IPv6 wise? I'm so clueless there
[13:14] <jdoe> if you just want the basics, HE has a ton of stuff (... and when you finish their quizzes/tests, you get the previously mentioned shirt)
[13:14] <jdoe> (... eventually.)
[13:17] <kraigu> jdoe: have you even taken yours off since you got it?
[13:18] <jdoe> it started getting a bit ratty, so I fashioned it into a crude set of underwear and just kept right on truckin'
[13:19] <kraigu> good man
[13:24] <pjs> HE?
[13:26] <dr_jkl> hurricane electric
[13:26] <dr_jkl> he.net
[13:26] <pjs> ahh, cool
[13:26] <pjs> thx
[13:52] <dr_jkl> wait you get a shirt
[13:52] <dr_jkl> i want a shirt
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[14:27] <up_the_irons> ryk: yes, i disable mpbios
[14:28] <up_the_irons> dr_jkl: i wasn't under the impression you were mad anyway... ;)
[14:29] <up_the_irons> dr_jkl: btw, @press5 and your initials.. GENIUS
[14:29] <up_the_irons> segv: we have 10.04 templates, but not 12.04 yet.  but we can always mount 12.04 for ya.
[14:30] <up_the_irons> pjs: thanks!!  man, i keep on dropping the ball on getting you a shirt...
[14:45] <segv> up_the_irons: cool deal, i sent an email with the iso location
[14:46] <up_the_irons> cool
[14:47] <segv> should be from info@....com
[15:40] <segv> up_the_irons: you guys get the support email from info@myd...
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[19:04] <dr_jkl> yay delicious freebsd 9
[19:06] <mhoran> :D
[20:50] <dr_jkl> maybe now i can compile this with a minimum of bitching from gcc
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[20:53] <segv> hmm
[20:54] <segv> mhoran: can you mount an image for me?
[21:09] <dr_jkl> hmmm...
[21:10] <dr_jkl> so i compiled a static version of vim... but it's still looking for things lke share/vim/syntax/syntax.vim wherever my /prefix was on the server i built it on.    is there any way around that?
[21:10] <dr_jkl> err --prefix
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[22:51] <up_the_irons> dr_jkl: iirc, --prefix will be the "base" dir for _everything_, even things in share; but there might be a --sharepath, or similar, option.  see ./configure --help
[22:52] <dr_jkl> there isn't, sadly..
[22:52] * dr_jkl looks again
[22:53] <dr_jkl> well, there's --datarootdir
[22:54] <dr_jkl> which *should* do what i want, but i don't know how to say 'in the same folder as the binary, without being recursive'
[22:55] <up_the_irons> hmm.. dunno
[22:58] <up_the_irons> dr_jkl: did you get vnc working, btw?
[22:58] <dr_jkl> i did
[22:58] <dr_jkl> i got your email and was like "....really? derp."
[22:59] <up_the_irons> haha
[22:59] <up_the_irons> cool
[22:59] <dr_jkl> because i should have tried that, but i didn't make a connection between the host and the vnc port
[22:59] <up_the_irons> yeah, i wouldn't imagine anyone would, unless they knew how kvm/qemu worked
[23:00] <dr_jkl> my freebsd 8-something install was like "i don't have this lib you need to make vim and it's not in the freaking ports tree" so i was like let's try an upgrade
[23:00] <dr_jkl> since i was getting the 'wah, nearing EOL' notices from freebsd-update
[23:01] <up_the_irons> yeah
[23:02] <milki> lol
[23:04] <dr_jkl> it could be worse
[23:04] <dr_jkl> it coould be IRIX
[23:04] <up_the_irons> srsly
[23:08] * up_the_irons opens a 5 hour energy
[23:29] <dr_jkl> aw look it i fixed it
[23:29] <up_the_irons> dr_jkl: what was it?
[23:29] <dr_jkl> i needed to reset $VIMRUNTIME
[23:30] <dr_jkl> ahh syntax highlighting and perl interpreter, i've missed you.
[23:30] <milki> how was your upgrade to 9? whats the patch number like over 1000 files?
[23:30] <milki> wasnt*
[23:32] <up_the_irons> dr_jkl: nice
[23:39] <segv> yo
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[23:54] <segv> okay heh
[23:55] <segv> can't connect to my kvn on kvr35
[23:55] <segv> bah 25**
[23:55] <segv> up_the_irons: known anything about that?
[23:56] <up_the_irons> segv: what is the port?
[23:56] <segv> 6125
[23:57] <up_the_irons> segv: i just connected fine
[23:57] <up_the_irons> segv: check your vnc prog
[23:57] <segv> yeah chicken of the vnc latest, not the original but the new forked one
[23:57] <segv> just sits "Connecting..."
[23:59] <segv> fixed
[23:59] <segv> heh
[23:59] <segv> effing internal firewall fail
[23:59] <up_the_irons> :)