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| mikeputnam | how come OpenBSD systat misbehaves in my arp vps? | [11:15] | 
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| pjs | anyone have trouble with freebsd-update? I've been getting this contastantly the last few weeks: http://dpaste.com/758314/ | [11:18] | 
| jpalmer | misbehaves how? I'm not familiar with running it on openbsd, but I've seen other issues.. that may not be specific to openbosd | [11:18] | 
| mikeputnam | it never populates the fields with stats | [11:19] | 
| jpalmer | pjs: IIRC, they added IPv6 AAAA records a few weeks ago. is your IPv6 either disabled, or configured correctly? | [11:20] | 
| pjs | jpalmer, I never configured it.. | [11:20] | 
| mikeputnam | i tried running it with a interval of 1 sec and the clock display ticks but no data. then this: > The alternate system clock has died! | [11:20] | 
| jpalmer | pjs:  I'd specifically disable IPv6 then, and see if it works.
 mikeputnam: ahh, not familiar with that particular issue. probably not going to be much help :/  | [11:21] | 
| mikeputnam | top works normally
 not a big deal really, more curiosity  | [11:21] | 
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| pjs | jpalmer, silly question.. I see the rc.conf entries to disable ipv6, but is it possible without requiring a reboot? | [11:25] | 
| up_the_irons | pjs: remove the default route for v6, and it won't be used (and if you never set it up, then most likely there is not v6 default anyway) | [11:27] | 
| pjs | up_the_irons netstat -rn does show some v6 routes.. | [11:29] | 
| jpalmer | pjs: can you ping update5.freebsd.org? over ipv4?
 I have a feeling it's timing out before your networking stack is trying to fall back to ipv4  | [11:29] | 
| pjs | Yup | [11:29] | 
| jpalmer | what happens if you ping6 the same host? | [11:30] | 
| pjs | PING6(56=40+8+8 bytes) 2607:f2f8:a548::2 --> 2001:4978:1:420::cc09:3750
 ping6: sendmsg: Operation not permitted  | [11:30] | 
| up_the_irons | pjs: the v6 default will be ::0
 pjs: is your firewall blocking some v6?  | [11:30] | 
| jpalmer | pjs: I'd run a tcpdump, and see if it's bein attempted over v4 or v6
 that message looks like the traffic is being administratively blocked.  | [11:31] | 
| pjs | up_the_irons default                           2607:f2f8:a548::1             UGS         em0 (my default)
 ahh, could be.. I didn't specifically permit v6  | [11:31] | 
| up_the_irons | pjs: looks right | [11:32] | 
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| pjs | man my v6 fu is non-existant | [11:33] | 
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| pjs | up_the_irons / jpalmer - my default out going rule is "pass out on $ext_if proto { tcp, udp, icmp } from any to any modulate state" (pf) do I need to specify v6 in there? | [11:34] | 
| up_the_irons | my pf fu is non-existent ;) | [11:34] | 
| jpalmer | pjs: I'm not sure how to completely disable v6 on fbsd.. I haven't done much in fbsd-land with it. I'm more of a centos guy the last 2-3 years due to work. | [11:35] | 
| pjs | heh ok cool.. I'll read the man page | [11:35] | 
| twobithacker | you're probably blocking icmp6, which is required for things like neighbor discovery to work | [11:35] | 
| up_the_irons | I think twobithacker is probably right, i just had a support ticket about this a week ago, and the customer's pf was blocking the ND packets | [11:36] | 
| pjs | twobithacker ahh, ok.. I am allowing icmp "pass in inet proto icmp all icmp-type echoreq keep state" but not mentioning icmp6 | [11:36] | 
| twobithacker | yeah, IPv6 requires more than that to function, you need to allow at least neighbrsol and neighbradv, and maybe routersol/routeradv, and toobig is highly recommended (since v6 can't be fragmented on the path)
 I find it easier to just allow all icmp6  | [11:39] | 
| jpalmer | I'd add a temp rule to allow all ipv6 in/out, and see if that addresses your update issue.  let smake sure we're on the right path, before builind g a fulle pf rule set.
 wow, I kin tipe.  | [11:39] | 
| pjs | ok, yea.. let me test that
 lol  | [11:40] | 
| jpalmer | currently in a meeting. ignore my poor typing and sporadic repsonses. :P | [11:40] | 
| twobithacker | http://pastebin.ca/2160604 <- my fairly minimal pf.conf, if anyone's interested | [11:41] | 
| pjs | twobithacker thanks.. helps me with the icmp6 change | [11:42] | 
| jdoe | jpalmer: depends on how thoroughly you want to remove it :P | [11:43] | 
| jpalmer | jdoe: I more meant 'disbable' so that the OS doesn't try to prefer it over v4. Ideally, you'd have dual stack working correctly. but barring that, prever v4 over a broken v6 config | [11:45] | 
| jdoe | ah | [11:47] | 
| pjs | jpalmer, well I can now ping6 update5.freebsd.org but freebsd-update fetch still fails (same as before, only much quicker now heh) | [11:47] | 
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| phlux | Anyone in here know anything about verifying SSL certs? | [11:57] | 
| twobithacker | maybe, what are you trying to do? | [11:59] | 
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| jpalmer | pjs: were you able to get a tcpdump?   is it trying v4 or v6?
 pjs: find the ipv4 address for one of the update servers, stick it in /etc/hosts, and see if it works?  | [12:22] | 
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| pjs | jpalmer, good idea.. I'll toy with it some more tomorrow. I got a handful of tickets to take care of.. thanks for all the help though!
 jpalmer, twobithacker, up_the_irons - really appreciate it! :)  | [12:49] | 
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