[00:34] *** ryk has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [00:34] *** Ehtyar has quit IRC (Quit: Never look down on someone unless you're helping them up.) [00:36] *** ryk has joined #arpnetworks [05:32] *** raptelan has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [05:39] *** raptelan has joined #arpnetworks [05:59] *** Hien_ has joined #arpnetworks [06:01] *** Hien has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [06:04] *** Hien_ has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [06:04] *** Hien has joined #arpnetworks [08:29] *** ryk has quit IRC (Changing host) [08:29] *** ryk has joined #arpnetworks [09:39] *** HighJinx has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) [10:02] *** HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks [11:27] is there a delay in the time period wherein i submit my ssh pubkey, and can ssh into the console server? [11:27] i worded that rather clunkily but i get you get the idea. [11:33] AFAIK it should work instantaneously. [11:33] Make sure it's formatted correctly, other than that dunno [11:38] Lefty: yello :) [11:39] * Lefty waves to ryk [11:47] ah it was just a typo in my login name. [11:49] Easily fixed [11:58] * qbit_ waves to all thebros [12:02] oh it really is openbsd 4.7. thought it might have been 5.1 [12:03] they have a 5.1 iso on hand for re-instal l:D [12:03] trying to decide if it's worth the wait or if i should just upgrade. [12:04] if you do upgrade .. make sure you config -e -f /bsd [12:05] and disable mpbios [12:07] what does that device represent? [12:08] ah found it [12:08] multi processor system [12:08] driver for extracting info from inteo SMP systems [12:08] *intel [12:08] aye [12:09] up_the_irons: is it too much trouble to mount the openbsd 5.1 installer iso? [12:10] ryk: no, pm me your vps uuid [12:51] *** zeeshoem has joined #arpnetworks [13:24] I'm going to have to drop bluehost. everytime I ask them about ipv6, they tell me the same thing. [13:24] "We'll support it when we run out of addresses" [13:24] dreamhost is $2/mo more expensive, but has it. [13:40] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [13:42] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [13:42] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [13:44] jpalmer: respectuflly [13:44] they are both horrible choices [13:44] dreamhost just had a major hack again this spring [13:44] meh. [13:44] they seem get hacked yearly. [13:44] who hasn't? :P [13:44] westhost has not. [13:45] that you know of :P [13:45] well [13:45] they haven't asked me to reset my passwords [13:45] that's more than you can say for dreamhost [13:45] I'd rather hear about getting compromised than not (but still get compromised) [13:45] the thing is [13:45] secure shared hosting is ... tough :P [13:45] these hosts all store your passwords in cleartext in a mysql db [13:46] so if that has been compromised [13:46] it's in their best interest to have you rset them [13:46] so that the attackers don't run wild with accounts on their systems. [13:47] ryk: oh, I know they aren't great. but, I don't need a vps or anything at this point. [13:48] jpalmer: i understand. [13:48] westhost and hostgator are shared hosting companies that have much better reputation than {blue,dream}host [13:48] ryk: and with lastpass.com, I don't really care if my password gets compromised :P I don't use the same password in 2 places. hehe [13:49] do either have ipv6? [13:49] it sucks when your account gets locked out though, or some mysterious javascript shows up at the bottom of your web pages [13:50] as i understand it, cPanel doesn't yet support ipv6, so probably no shared host is going to [13:51] dreamhost and squarespace do. [13:52] dreamhost has a homegrown control panel [13:52] that is riddled with security holes [13:53] but that is good for squarespace. [13:53] jpalmer: so you're not an arpnetworks customer? [13:53] I am [13:55] I use the vps for other things, and it changes frequently enough, that I don't particularly want to run websites on it. (my 2 personal vps's are essentially remote test machines) [13:55] yeah. i have one production vps that i don't touch [13:56] soon to be two [14:02] I dunno. I guess I could run the sites on one of them. might be an option.. [14:02] brb [14:06] does arpnetworks offer snapshots? [14:13] as in, say i was about to upgrade the OS, can you snap it for me in case it goes fubar [14:13] no [14:13] but that's probably a feature i'd pay for, up_the_irons [14:14] * up_the_irons switches to this window [14:14] $5 per snap [14:15] or something [14:16] just providing snapshots (w/o remote backup), is probably something that would be relatively straightforward to do [14:17] do other providers charge for snapshots? [14:17] i was under the impression they don't... [14:17] linode just counts it against your storage space [14:17] prgmr doesn't offer it [14:18] but linode gives you 20G on the small plan so you can do that. not so easy on a smaller instance [14:19] i was thinking along the lines of, $5 for your manual labor. [14:19] but isn't linode's small plan 20G in the first place? (so i u wanted to snap the whole thing, it would be 40G in total?) [14:19] ryk: ooooooooooooooooh! [14:19] ryk: :) [14:19] up_the_irons: with linode you get a bucket of storage space, but you don't have to use it all [14:19] you're making smaller partitions basically [14:20] their panel is able to keep track of how big your partitions are [14:20] and thus how much storage space you're using. [14:20] ryk: $5 for "lvcreate -s -L

", but $15 if you actually need to restore that if things go fubar (cuz restoring from the snap is a lot more steps) [14:20] i'm not sure where they save the snaps, possibly somewhere else [14:20] ryk: ah ok, interesting [14:20] but the panel also calculates the storage space used by those and substracts it from your total. [14:21] so yeah the small isntance i was referring to would be what we have here. [14:21] i c [14:21] with a 10 [14:21] with a 10G instance [14:21] i could try to run the OS at 5G and emulate it [14:22] but i want all my 10G :) [14:22] right [14:23] with prgmr he would be like, "tar everything up and ssh it to somewhere else, then if you fubar it, boot to the CentOS rescue image, mount the disk, and pull your image back down" [14:26] up_the_irons: i'm sure anyone with a broken server would pay $15 to get it up and running again, albeit a bit begrudgingly [14:33] ryk: hah, yeah [14:49] *** Guest24486 has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [15:07] *** zeeshoem has quit IRC () [15:19] *** urlke has joined #arpnetworks [15:23] *** nestea has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [15:23] *** urlke is now known as nestea [15:27] *** nestea has quit IRC (Quit: ()) [15:27] *** urlke has joined #arpnetworks [15:27] *** urlke is now known as nestea [15:27] *** nestea has quit IRC (Client Quit) [15:28] *** nestea has joined #arpnetworks [15:54] *** phlux has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [16:01] *** phlux has joined #arpnetworks [16:32] *** Ehtyar has joined #arpnetworks [17:07] *** gift_ has joined #arpnetworks [17:08] *** gift_ is now known as Guest51869 [18:38] *** Hien has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [18:39] *** Hien has joined #arpnetworks [18:42] *** Hien has quit IRC (Client Quit) [18:43] *** Hien has joined #arpnetworks [18:49] *** HighJinx has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) [19:11] *** HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks [20:06] *** HighJinx has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [20:08] *** HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks [20:15] *** HighJinx has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [20:17] *** HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks [20:23] *** Guest51869 is now known as gift_ [20:24] *** gift_ is now known as Guest96686 [20:44] *** Guest96686 has quit IRC (Quit: it puts the packet in the socket or else it gets the close() again) [20:45] *** gift__ has joined #arpnetworks [20:46] *** gift__ has quit IRC (Client Quit) [21:05] *** jlgaddis has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [21:44] *** jlgaddis has joined #arpnetworks [21:44] *** jlgaddis has quit IRC (Changing host) [21:44] *** jlgaddis has joined #arpnetworks [22:56] *** phlux has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [22:58] *** phlux has joined #arpnetworks