Webhostbudd: would be cool if someone was online to do a cd change at this time of night =p ***: Ehtyar has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
LT has joined #arpnetworks Zetas: qbit_: newp, never came back from reboot lol. Looking at the console now to see what happened jlgaddis: Webhostbudd: up_the_irons is online late at night quite often. support ticket is the best way to get his attention. Zetas: qbit_: no deal, nothing showing up on the console and cant ssh in... lol qbit_: Zetas: did it prompt you for the disabeling of mpbios? Zetas: when? i don'
i don't have any prompts now
it never came back up after running your script and rebooting qbit_: during the script run Zetas: no qbit_: mm
that's probably why
you can still disable it
from the boot> prompt
from the > prompt ( just before it loads the kernel )
type bsd -c
then disable mpbios
quit
i was able to get to the prompt from the vnc console thinger Zetas: am i dumb, are you supposed to be able to type in the console? It eventually showed me a login prompt just now after waiting 30+ minutes (but still cant ssh)
but i cant type anything in qbit_: on the ssh console ya
should be able to type Zetas: thats what i thought
no dice qbit_: or vnc Zetas: i wonder what the effing issue is
vnc is gonna be a pita, i have to go through 2 proxies just to browse the web qbit_: well ssh might not be coming up because of old ocnfig options
or missing devices
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weird Zetas: well maybe not the console, could be the vps itself qbit_: are you getting timeouts on emX?
dmesg should show them Zetas: im logged in at the console
i have the $
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up_the_irons has quit IRC (Excess Flood) jpalmer: Notifications for this host are being suppressed because it was detected as having been flapping between different states (32.8% change > 30.0% threshold). When the host state stabilizes and the flapping stops, notifications will be re-enabled. jlgaddis: if it makes you feel any better, LINX is hosed =) jpalmer: my traceroutes appear to be ok.
of course, I'm not seeing the issue now, either. so.. it could be that bgp did it's thing :P jlgaddis: yeah it's fine now. a bit ago, level 3 was sending me to paris... jpalmer: he went to paris, looking for answers to questions that bothered him so ***: swaj has joined #arpnetworks
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swaj has joined #arpnetworks tooth: issues for me as well.
saw a routing loop for a bit ***: doomviki1g has joined #arpnetworks twobithacker: out to pccw? tooth: pccw? ***: doomviki1g is now known as doomviking twobithacker: that's where my packets were looping tooth: mine where looping here
25 cr1.lax1.us.packetexchange.net (4.71.136.2) 86.168 ms 75.143 ms 74.340 ms
26 xe-10-0-0.edge3.losangeles1.level3.net (4.71.136.1) 74.154 ms 73.959 ms 73.972 ms ***: up_the_irons has joined #arpnetworks
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ChanServ sets mode: +o up_the_irons up_the_irons: omg, yay, i'm in
i was connected to so many freenode channels that when my client tried to reconnect, freenode would kick me with Excess Flood ***: pyro-_ has joined #arpnetworks up_the_irons: jlgaddis: what happened to LINX? jlgaddis: no official word yet ***: pyro-_ has left up_the_irons: ah
a ton of bgp sessions were reset over here also (~ 7:55), i'm still investigating the cause (I suspect an Any2 IX engineer looped the fabric again) jlgaddis: dunno, i saw level3 issues in denver right about the same time ***: jlgaddis has quit IRC (Changing host)
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LT has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) up_the_irons: jlgaddis: yeah, kinda weird jlgaddis: up_the_irons: see my pm? useful place to lurk. up_the_irons: jlgaddis: checkin' it out, tnx! ***: swaj has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) Zetas: up_the_irons: any idea why there is a ~1min keystroke lag when using the ssh console? plett: up_the_irons, jlgaddis: Hi. I am Paul-20712 in the other place :) Zetas: other place? plett: The first rule of the other place is that you don't talk about the other place phlux: We having some connectivity issues today? up_the_irons: phlux: there was some earlier (~ 8am pst), still investigating phlux: Roger that, thanks up_the_irons: Zetas: openbsd? seeing any em0 timeouts on the console? ***: swaj has joined #arpnetworks
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swaj has joined #arpnetworks Zetas: up_the_irons: nope, i did an upgrade to 5.1 and that might have messed things up, i can't ssh in and i didn't try the ssh console before ssh stopped working. But as far as i can tell from looking at load average and what not: as far as the vps is concerned there's no issues.
up_the_irons: and yes, obsd, sorry. jlgaddis: plett: hah, nice =) ***: nestea has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
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nestea has joined #arpnetworks up_the_irons: Zetas: not sure. i have a 5.1 test VM and it is stable (and responsive). there were some issues on openbsd-misc ML about 5.1 throwing a ton of em0 timeouts (making ssh basically unusable), and one other customer reported this also, but i can't reproduce it for the life of me. the openbsd-misc guys argue with me on this, but nevertheless, the only people who reported problems *upgraded*,
while those who did fresh installs did not have a problem. qbit_: Zetas: have you sysmerge'd yet and MAKEDEV'd yet? Zetas: qbit_: im trying to get to it, but as you can imagine, while waiting 1 minute for every keystroke, it can take quite awhile to get anything done. qbit_: truth Zetas: up_the_irons: i would have rather done a fresh install but the only option was an upgrade :( qbit_: i would try to do those before checking for other causes of the issue up_the_irons: Zetas: roger qbit_: Zetas: you can do a fresh install Zetas: qbit_: how? qbit_: http://support.arpnetworks.com/kb/vps/re-install-or-change-os
also you can boot into the bsd.rd and just install away Zetas: o_o
why.....
why.... would you give me that craptastic script when i could have just fresh installed
lol qbit_: cuz you asked "how to upgrade" up_the_irons: Zetas: qbit_ : LOL qbit_: :P Zetas: i just got "engineered" up_the_irons: Zetas: PM me your vps uuid and i'll put in the 5.1 CD :) Zetas: similar to "lawyered" up_the_irons: hahahahaha
whoa, damn near 70 nicks in here, yay
largest in a while... qbit_: wew pyro-: came in to see why i couldn't connect :D up_the_irons: LOL
*that's* gotta explain it... jlgaddis: up_the_irons: any chance you'll start emailing out receipts again anytime soon? my bookkeeper would really like them. up_the_irons: jlgaddis: we actually put that back in place almost immediately (~ jan/feb), you haven't been getting them i take it...
jlgaddis: they are sent to the email in your Profile in the Portal
(the primary one)
jlgaddis: you can also view all invoices since Feb in the Portal. Just click the "Invoices" link.
(or rather, invoices generated since Feb are there, but that feature only appeared in the Portal last month) jlgaddis: hrm, lemme double check but no, i don't think i've been getting them
okay, i lied. up_the_irons: haha jlgaddis: i have all of them. nfi why i thought i wasn't getting them still. up_the_irons: LOL
when the internet goes wonky, jlgaddis' brain goes wonky too jlgaddis: ooooh, automatically dumped to a receipts folder up_the_irons: and you forget your own filters...
;) jlgaddis: not sure when i set that up. i used to see them in my inbox and then file 'em away.
looks like i'm missing march actually, but i'll print it off from the portal. thanks and sorry for the false alarm. up_the_irons: np! doomviking: DEMAND A REFUND
j/k ***: nestea has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
nestea has joined #arpnetworks -: jlgaddis wonders if the "EVIL" coupon code is still accepted up_the_irons: jlgaddis: yeah, it is jlgaddis: cool, i always wondered if anyone ever signed up after i recommended you. i know a few coworkers did a long time ago. up_the_irons: jlgaddis: yes, i recall that code coming through once recently Zetas: up_the_irons: maybe im doing something wrong but im unable to get vnc to work, i keep getting: channel 2: open failed: connect failed: Connection refused.
from the terminal i set the tunnel up on up_the_irons: Zetas: only 1 vnc session is supported, so if u have a dangling session somewhere else, it'll cause problems
do a hard reboot and try again
Channel poll: Regarding referral programs -- I've often given a free month to customers who refer a friend. However, if I used a Dropbox-like model, where I give more VPS resources for each friend referred, would that be preferred? Like, more RAM, or disk, or BW... and if so, what is the most desired resource? Zetas: up_the_irons: i dont think i could have any dangling vnc sessions, i've never used it before. I just did a hard shutdown again and tried again and still the same results. up_the_irons: Zetas: what is the vnc host and port? Zetas: up_the_irons: btw, qbit_ referred me, i didn't see anywhere to put that on the signup page. qbit_: :D Zetas: up_the_irons: the last bit of my tunnel command: 5955:kvr19.arpnetworks.com:6059 -N up_the_irons: Zetas: the vps is running? Zetas: up_the_irons: newp up_the_irons: Zetas: "Additional Comments" :) Zetas: so it has to be running i assume up_the_irons: qbit_: send me a reminder: support@arpnetworks.com. I will credit you for the referral Zetas: lol up_the_irons: Zetas: yeah :) qbit_: oh sweet Zetas: i love learning up_the_irons: :) jlgaddis: up_the_irons: the free month is fine w/ me up_the_irons: jlgaddis: roger jlgaddis: don't really need the extra resources or i would have upgraded
fwiw, the #packetpushers site is on a "managed server" that they pay $99/mo. for. they do less page views per day than i do, have more resources on their server, and have more problems than i do. =)
i've tried to get greg to switch to you but he doesn't want to deal w/ the management of the server. qbit_: up_the_irons: hope my email addy is enough for you to key off my account :P
cuz i didn't supply any more info :D up_the_irons: qbit_: yeah that'll be fine qbit_: kew up_the_irons: jlgaddis: LOL
jlgaddis: maybe i should start a managed hosting option... Zetas: up_the_irons: yes, working!!!111
up_the_irons: what kind of storage backend do you use? Localstore? iscsi luns? up_the_irons: Zetas: 8x SATA (RAID 10) on local jlgaddis: fiber channel over token ring -: up_the_irons drops dead Zetas: lol up_the_irons: i hear those switches are cheap... Zetas: i was running iscsi luns over fiber channel, it worked pretty well with the 70 or so vps's on that box. up_the_irons: Zetas: is iscsi typically run over fiber channel, or was that just something you added?:) Zetas: up_the_irons: it can be run over whatever you want. During early testing i just used gig-e up_the_irons: Zetas: yeah, just wondering what performed better Zetas: well FC was way better than gig-
e up_the_irons: Zetas: there are even switches "optimized" for iscsi, over regular gige
Zetas: ah , interesting plett: nestea: Your fu.cr domain, did you have to jump through hoops to claim that you are the trademark/brand holder of "fu" to get it? jlgaddis: iscsi over fiber channel? Zetas: even during beta i was pumping about 600gb/day through the uplink (including both directions) up_the_irons: brb ***: mike-burns has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
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Zetas_ has joined #arpnetworks Zetas: whats the netmask forthere we go
wow copy paste fail Zetas_: woot
i am so cool
i am in bsd -: Zetas_ pats self on the head qbit_: haha nestea: :o ***: swaj has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
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phlux_ has joined #arpnetworks Webhostbudd: up_the_irons: when you switched me to linux from freebsd and said i wouldn't be able to access the freebsd HDD, is the new disk actually using a different image file? Or is the assumption just that freebsd won't boot virtio disks? ***: swaj has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
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Zetas_ has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) Zetas: Webhostbudd: im not 100% sure but i seem to recall having issues with freebsd and linux getting along, i think fbsd uses an entirely different partition type that is not supported by default in linux. Webhostbudd: freebsd 9 uses gpt
older bsd's used their own type Zetas: ok, the last time i interacted with it, i seem to remember ufs being involved. Webhostbudd: so the latest actually isn't that bad
yea, it uses ufs but with a gpt table i can always have linux easily read the ufs partition Zetas: i guess thats right, what i was trying to do was to create a partition in linux that fbsd 8 could read
that was a nightmare Webhostbudd: yea...
it sucks that there is really no middle ground between the two systems
although i guess they both read / write ext2 if im not mistaken Zetas: i was shocked when i found out just how different they were.. im not sure why they are so different though
i think they can both fallback to ext2, yea mike-burns: Why wouldn't they be vastly different? Webhostbudd: im not all that surprised myself given their history
and it's not like their differences are all that bad, my only qualm with freebsd is virtualization and filesystems Zetas: mike-burns: seems to me as time moves on all things homogenize Webhostbudd: unfortunately licensing doesn't exactly allow that up_the_irons: Webhostbudd: it's the same image Webhostbudd: oh, alright up_the_irons: Webhostbudd: but the underlying architecture that the VM sees for the disk is "virtio" instead of "ide" Webhostbudd: yep
i was actually going to ask about that switch earlier when i had planned on compiling virtio extensions into freebsd
but i've since decided to switch away up_the_irons: Webhostbudd: Zetas : last i checked, linux could read ufs2 partitions, but not write
or at least the "write" was experimental still Webhostbudd: write is pretty broken and scary Zetas: up until a couple years ago, ntfs was still read only by default lol up_the_irons: Webhostbudd: had a customer try freebsd 9 virtio extensions and there were issues booting (not sure why) Webhostbudd: weird
they worked fine on my kvm setup here up_the_irons: you might have a newer kvm with newer bios Webhostbudd: possibly
and on arch i wouldn't be all that surprised if that was true up_the_irons: arch will do virtio no problem Webhostbudd: sorry, as a base system with the kvm package
im sure qemu-kvm is more up to date
same with seabio up_the_irons: ah right Webhostbudd: doesn't really matter at this point anyway, the real reason I wanted to use freebsd was jails and it looks like linux containers is making some good progress ***: Guest10009 is now known as pjs up_the_irons: "Ring users can connect to simplytransit01.ring.nlnog.net, which is located in Maidenhead, United Kingdom."
There's actually a city named Maidenhead?!
that just made my day
-- https://ring.nlnog.net/news/2012/04/simply-transit-joined-the-ring/ Webhostbudd: lol ***: notion_ has joined #arpnetworks
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We have half a dozen racks in the same data centre as that ring node ***: twobitha1ker has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
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swaj has joined #arpnetworks up_the_irons: plett: so what is it, a small town? building? ;) plett: up_the_irons: Medium sized town by UK standards
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maidenhead up_the_irons: wow, ty plett: Being that close to London, it would probably be considered to be in the "London Metro area", if it were transplanted to .us
But here, it is considered to be most definitely not London up_the_irons: ah
interesting ***: himuraken has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
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for some reason my vnc console is broken ***: Webhostbudd_ has joined #arpnetworks Webhostbudd_: this is really odd
isn't the vnc connection supposed to be destroyed when i hard shutdown the machine? ***: Webhostbudd has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
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Webhostbudd has joined #arpnetworks Webhostbudd: up_the_irons: you there? up_the_irons: Webhostbudd: your VM has to be running for VNC to connect Webhostbudd: it is....
i've been trying to switch it hard off and back on
for some reason vnc isn't connecting anymor up_the_irons: then the VM may not be running
or u have a stale vnc session somewhere in the background Webhostbudd: restarted my machine
still nothing
this is really weird up_the_irons: Webhostbudd: what is the host and port? Webhostbudd: kvr24.arpnetworks.com:6070 ***: twobithacker has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
twobithacker has joined #arpnetworks Webhostbudd: up_the_irons: anything? up_the_irons: Webhostbudd: sorry, was afk Webhostbudd: oh, alright up_the_irons: Webhostbudd: the connection hangs, which means there's another connection somewhere Webhostbudd: well, i would hope rebooting my machine would fix that up_the_irons: Webhostbudd: you can kill all connections by *hard* rebooting
the VM must be completely off Webhostbudd: I've done this numerous times
that's fine
just did a hard poweroff of the vm up_the_irons: http://support.arpnetworks.com/kb/vps/out-of-band-management Webhostbudd: i read the whole thing
still no dice up_the_irons: Webhostbudd: pm me your vps uuid
i will kill it from my end Webhostbudd: im using the cust console which seems to be killing it, but still no luck when it comes back up up_the_irons: Webhostbudd: try now, i can connect Webhostbudd: alright
awesome, thanks
odd that it didn't work before up_the_irons: well, this is rare, but looks like libvirt hung (cause unknown). so your VM was not coming back up b/c the manager died. Webhostbudd: oh, alright up_the_irons: i gave it a kick, and a shove, and now it's all good Webhostbudd: lets hope i don't break it again
doing whatever it was that i did
now i've got something even more odd, i try to boot from a cd and just get a blank screen
this is what i get for not building virtio modules into my kernel up_the_irons: we always set virtio for linux guests, so if you have linux, be sure to add virtio :) Webhostbudd: i just forgot that i needed to manually add the virtio modules
and i appreciate that is is virtio
but for some reason my livecd is giving me a black / grey screen if i hit enter
which i find to be odd
seeing as it worked 4 hours ago jlgaddis: man, you're just breaking everything, aren't you? :P Webhostbudd: i am
i have absolutely no idea how
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