[00:19] *** HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks [00:34] *** Ehtyar has quit IRC (Quit: I was raided by the FBI and all I got to keep was this lousy quit message!) [02:39] *** Ehtyar has joined #arpnetworks [02:49] *** spacey has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [02:49] *** spacey has joined #arpnetworks [02:52] *** tooth has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) [02:53] *** tooth has joined #arpnetworks [03:47] *** jlgaddis_ is now known as jlgaddis [09:10] *** HighJinx has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) [09:10] *** Hien has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [09:11] *** Hien has joined #arpnetworks [09:14] * mikeputnam talks up @arpnetworks to twitter pals [09:57] *** HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks [10:33] *** nke- has joined #arpnetworks [10:33] hello [10:33] up_the_irons around? [10:33] hola [10:35] hi [10:54] *** nke- has quit IRC () [10:59] ohai [11:05] haio [11:13] *** phlux has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [11:15] *** phlux has joined #arpnetworks [11:15] *** phlux is now known as Guest1655 [11:15] *** Guest1655 is now known as phlux [12:59] til you guys do colo [12:59] bawesome [13:00] what would it cost to get a 1u dell sc 1425 colo'd ? [13:13] * jpalmer is upgrading a fbsd vps for someone. and DAMN is it slow. I just told them about ARP :P [13:13] *** Zetas has joined #arpnetworks [13:14] oh hai Zetas [13:14] hellos [13:14] so kyl gave me this guide to upgrade: http://cvs.openbsd.org/faq/upgrade51.html#x-kbd-cfg [13:14] but that makes baby jesus cry [13:14] is there an easier way? [13:14] like apt-get distupgrade [13:14] lol [13:15] Zetas: that script i linkered you earlier does exactly that stuff [13:15] would take a quick mod to make it work with non-snap based stuff [13:15] you linked a script? i didn't see that [13:15] https://github.com/qbit/dotfiles/blob/master/bin/update_snap [13:16] actually - it wouldn't even take a mod [13:16] just remove line 3 [13:16] oh wait [13:16] lol [13:16] nm [13:17] remvoe line 3 and line 19 [13:17] * Zetas gives qbit_ another minute to look it over [13:17] lol [13:17] and set SNAP_PATH=ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/5.1/ [13:18] or just ftp ftp.openbsd.org; cd /pub/OpenBSD/5.1/arch [13:18] mget * [13:18] and then paste that "Save a copy of reboot(8), install new userland applications." bit [13:19] just don't forget to config -e -f /bsd [13:21] ok its running [13:21] standby for re-install from image [13:21] lol [13:21] ha [13:21] :P [13:22] when it reboots.. make sure you "sysmerge -s etc51.tgz" [13:22] and "cd /dev; sh MAKEDEV all" [13:22] ^ do the makedev first [13:22] k [13:23] also - mybad [13:23] pass 5.1 to that script [13:23] ./update_snap 5.1 [13:23] oh god [13:24] lal [13:24] ABORTABORT [13:25] otherwise it will just upgrade you to the latest 4.7 :P [13:25] # ./update_snap 5.1 [13:25] ./update_snap[13]: 5.1X: unexpected `.' [13:25] ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/5.1/amd64/ [13:25] ^C [13:26] heh [13:26] ewps [13:26] that -eq should probably be == [13:29] heh, yea, lets try that [13:29] there we go [13:29] so far so good [13:35] wew [13:43] jpalmer: :) [13:43] qbit_: do you know how much power that dell uses? [13:45] LOL, "but that makes baby jesus cry" [13:45] ;) [13:51] *** notion has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [13:51] up_the_irons: dell's documentation says 450W @ For eutrophication, cotton growing is the main contributor, from the use and [13:52] production of fertilizer. Cotton growing and the energy consumed during cotton [13:52] lol [13:52] paste fail [13:52] *** notion has joined #arpnetworks [13:52] 1876 BTU/hr maximum [13:52] http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/SC1425/en/ug/f3593aa0.htm#wp1052765 [13:52] lol [13:53] qbit_: that's typical not what it consumes in practice. any idea what the real usage would be? do u have a watt meter? :) what kinda proc's does it have? [13:54] dual xeon 2.8ghz [13:54] i don't know the wattage irl [13:54] i will find out tho :D [13:54] those xeon's are hungry mothers [13:54] k [13:54] i will get some actual numbers [13:55] with high cpu usage [13:55] i imagine 2.1 amps [13:55] tell me if i'm right once u know :) [13:55] k [13:55] assuming 2.1 amps - what would the cost be/ [13:55] * up_the_irons calculates [13:56] qbit_: how many ips needed? (it can share the vlan with your vps, if this is going under the same account) [13:56] woo [13:56] one ip [13:56] k [13:58] that would be 250W of power (2.1A), so the MRC would be $150 / mo. [13:58] qbit_: ^ [13:59] k [13:59] kew [13:59] thanks [13:59] np [13:59] up_the_irons: can you give a price on a per-ip charge for colo? [13:59] Zetas: per-ip charge? [13:59] the cost per additional ip address [14:00] ipv4 [14:00] Zetas: we typically do $1 per IP for small blocks for our VPS platform (/29's and /28's), but for larger blocks we need to talk. It wouldn't be more than $2 per IP. [14:00] ok, $2/ip/month is what i've paid in the past [14:01] thats too expensive for my needs [14:01] Zetas: yeah, it's on par [14:01] Zetas: how many IPs do you need? [14:02] as many as possible i suppose, it would be for a vps provider (if you even allowed such a thing) some places get pissy about it which is fine. [14:02] in the past i've maintained blocks of 80 or more [14:03] but to hit th $5/month pricepoint its kinda hard to get that when you're paying $2 up front for the IP [14:03] Zetas: definitely [14:03] Zetas: with IPv4 runout under way, it's not gonna get better either ;) [14:04] yea i know lol, i flirted with the idea of ipv6-only vps's but i don't know if there is any market for that, i assume not, at least not now. [14:04] Zetas: yeah, not yet [14:05] my whole network does 1.5 Mbps of IPv6 on the 95th, so not much traffic [14:05] years ago i was colo'd in a DC in atlanta, they used to hand out a /27 to every new customer off the bat and additional /27's were not a problem either lol. [14:05] the good ol' days [14:05] Zetas: absolutely... i got 16 /24's from a provider called Aleron once... [14:05] they didn't even blink [14:06] haha nice [14:06] Zetas: that upgrade work? [14:06] i see new blocks coming on the market though. One old lady somehow managed to get her hands on a /8 and was auctioning it off [14:06] i think it sold for millions [14:06] qbit_: still downloading [14:06] Zetas: omg, *that* makes baby jesus cry [14:07] up_the_irons: doesn't it though.. lol. Another one of those "if only.." [14:08] Zetas: you can try Syminet (http://syminet.com) for colo and cheaper IPs (maybe). They are in the same data center as me and use our network (and our IPs, heh). Maybe they'll bundle something for ya. [14:08] up_the_irons: thanks for the link. My VPS service already folded earlier in the year but i always hold out hope for it to come back some day. [14:09] Zetas: yeah, it's never too late :) [14:09] Zetas: what was your offering like? [14:10] up_the_irons: i just signed up for one of your 512 bsd slices yesterday, im working on it today, so far im impressed with your setup. It's simple, elegant, and most importantly, functional. lol [14:10] Zetas: glad you like it :) [14:11] up_the_irons: it was xen based. I offered every flavor of linux under the sun. Automated restores, customer controlled kernels, restore partitions in the boot process, SSH console, etc. [14:11] Zetas: nice [14:12] i didn't get into hvm/qemu for many reasons, least of which was demand. Hardly anyone wants bsd/windows vps's. [14:12] qbit_: I put etc.tgz and xetc.tgz in ~/ [14:12] Don't forget to sysmerge when done! [14:13] thats what the script said when it finished just now [14:13] wew [14:13] dun forget to do it [14:13] :D [14:13] also MAKEDEV [14:14] Zetas: right, but problem with a xen / linux offering is there are, I imagine, over 1000+ hosts doing that. lots of competition make it very hard to get into the market [14:17] up_the_irons: true, though i had a few things no one else did. My ssh control panel was pretty advanced, as were my restore capabilities. You could, at a glance, reboot and drop into a live linux distro to repair your system, reinstall your os or any other os, take snapshots and restore backups all from the ssh console. [14:17] thats kinda what i was banking on [14:18] *** Ehtyar has quit IRC (Quit: Going!) [14:18] Zetas: ah, very nice [14:18] Zetas: did your advertising focus on that? [14:21] up_the_irons: it would have. Never got that far. I had to close up shop about a month before launch. I couldn't afford to keep it running since i was leasing the hardware. [14:21] qbit_: something looks wrong: [14:21] # tar -C / -xzphf xserv51.tgz [14:21] tar: End of archive volume 1 reached [14:21] tar: Sorry, unable to determine archive format. [14:21] Zetas: ah ok [14:21] up_the_irons: good admin, bad businessman lol [14:21] haha [14:22] qbit_: oh it looks like it did those tar's already in your script [14:22] qbit_: so i copied the reboot [14:25] *** digs has joined #arpnetworks [14:25] * jpalmer waves to digs [14:27] qbit_: ok i have to leave, i'll deal with this later. Thanks for the help :) [14:32] np [14:45] *** notion has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [14:47] *** notion has joined #arpnetworks [16:15] *** Ehtyar has joined #arpnetworks [18:41] *** HighJinx has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) [18:48] *** mjp has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [19:02] *** HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks [19:04] *** mjp has joined #arpnetworks [19:54] well Zetas ? is it alive? [20:01] If I were to make CentOS templates available to order (so one didn't have to install it on their own), what would be prefered: 5.x or 6.x ? [20:03] >.> [20:03] <.< [20:03] OpenBSD :D [20:03] ehhem [20:03] 6.x finally came out? [20:03] yeah, been out for a while [20:04] ha [20:04] nice [20:17] up_the_irons: 6 [20:17] upgrading is a PITA :P [20:17] and anyone who says different is a lying goddamn liar that lies ;) [20:52] *** digs has quit IRC () [22:21] *** phlux has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [22:21] *** phlux has joined #arpnetworks [22:22] *** phlux is now known as Guest20438 [22:38] *** HighJinx has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [22:43] *** HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks [22:54] *** HighJinx has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [22:57] *** HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks [23:05] *** mjp_ has joined #arpnetworks [23:06] *** mjp has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [23:19] I would stick with 5.x as it can still be run on 256 MB Ram