[01:58] *** mjp_ has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [01:58] *** mjp has joined #arpnetworks [08:35] so that amd64 openbsd issue - did it ever get resolved? [08:36] timeout issue [09:02] *** qbit_ has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [09:08] *** qbit_ has joined #arpnetworks [09:08] :D [09:26] *** koan has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) [09:27] *** koan has joined #arpnetworks [10:19] *** HighJinx_ has joined #arpnetworks [10:22] *** HighJinx has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [10:22] *** HighJinx_ is now known as HighJinx [10:47] *** HighJinx has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [12:03] *** HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks [12:25] *** HighJinx has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [12:29] *** HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks [12:59] *** niner has joined #arpnetworks [13:11] *** niner has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [13:18] qbit_: looks like it was an isolated incident (reason unknown), b/c i was unable to reproduce it and other customers were able to upgrade to 5.1 without issue. On openbsd-misc ML, there were some that had problems, but last I read, the commit causing the issue was found (and yet, the issue doesn't appear for more ppl) [13:20] yeah - i just updated mine with no problem [13:21] s/more/most/ [13:21] qbit_: cool, are you on amd64 or i386? [13:22] amd64 [13:22] cool [14:05] *** HighJinx has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [14:06] *** HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks [15:14] *** amdprophet has joined #arpnetworks [15:23] *** HighJinx has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [15:25] *** HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks [16:57] *** amdprophet has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving...) [17:44] CaZe: did you build that grinder you linkered me eleventybillion days ago? [17:55] *** Yamazaki1kun has joined #arpnetworks [17:57] *** Yamazaki-kun has quit IRC (Disconnected by services) [17:57] *** Yamazaki1kun is now known as Yamazaki-kun [17:57] *** zeeshoem has joined #arpnetworks [17:57] *** Yamazaki-kun has quit IRC (Client Quit) [17:57] *** Yamazaki-kun has joined #arpnetworks [18:23] *** amdprophet has joined #arpnetworks [19:21] qbit_: No, I bought it. [19:22] ohsnap - maybe i am remembering a diff link.. this was one that some dudes put together [19:23] Orphan Espresso? [19:29] might have been [19:29] was a long time ago :P [19:30] http://www.orphanespresso.com/OE-Pharos-Hand-Coffee-Grinder_c_392.html [19:32] yes! [19:32] you bought one? [19:33] is it awesome? [19:33] Yeah, but the grind catching funnel is kind weird. [19:33] Also, aligning the burrs takes some getting used to. [19:34] They have a portable version now that's cheaper. [19:34] http://www.orphanespresso.com/OE-LIDO-Hand-Coffee-Grinder_p_4682.html [19:34] oh nice [19:37] I'd get the second one if you're not doing much espresso. [19:46] what do you think of the Rancilio Rocky? [19:53] Never used it. [19:53] I prefer manual machines though. [20:12] any particular reason youlike manual over powered? [20:21] I think powered anything is simply overkill for making a single serving of coffee. [20:22] It adds to the cost, and makes repairs more expensive. [20:28] makes sense [20:30] And powered grinders are loud. [20:36] what espresso machine do you have? [20:42] La Pavoni Europiccola. [20:43] awesome [20:50] do you filter your water? [20:51] I distill my water. [20:51] I already use distiled water for making my own seltzer, so I always just have it around. [20:53] cool [20:53] have you ever made tonic water? [20:53] Also, I have a CO2 tank for making seltzer, which I also use for flushing the air out of my jars of green coffee. [20:53] No. [20:54] git cherry-pick is pure sex. git submodules are.. not so much. [20:54] nice - i have a CO2 tank for homebrew [20:54] * jpalmer has a saltwater tank. I don't drink the stuff. :) [20:54] heh [20:55] CaZe: is there a big diff between using distiled and filtered? [20:55] jpalmer: i like modules.. just not removing them :P [20:56] You mean in terms of taste? [20:56] Or quantified in terms of total dissolved solids? [20:56] My filtered tap water comes out at around 80 ppm. [20:56] Distilled water is 0 ppm. [20:57] qbit_: depends on the source, and the filtration. as an example.. my well has 1050 TDS. after my RO, it's around 89 TDS. after my DI canisters.. 0 TDS [20:57] I've never really bothered to try and taste the difference though. [20:58] heh [20:58] k [20:58] Using distilled water also mean that you never have to descale the boiler. [20:58] i mean in taste [20:58] that's nice [20:58] I can taste the difference in seltzer though. [20:59] Carbonated filtered water tastes like ass compared to carbonated distilled water. [20:59] do you make the distilled water yourself? [20:59] Yes. [20:59] I have a distilling unit. [21:00] It works out to about $0.60 of electricity per gallon to run. [21:00] I still use filtered water though, for cooking. [21:00] I only use distilled water where I can perceive a difference. [21:01] Or if I want to avoid things like having to descale boilers. [21:01] cool [21:01] jpalmer: what does TDS mean? [21:02] totald dissolved solids [21:02] ah [21:02] so your well has 1050 tds per ? [21:02] qbit_: for refrence: TDS over 500 ppm, is considered unfit for human consumption by the US govt. [21:02] 1050 ppm [21:04] k [21:04] :D [21:04] You can get a meter that tells you your TDS. [21:04] There's a water filter that comes with one for free. [21:04] One of those pitcher types. [21:05] http://www.zerowater.com/ [21:05] That's actually what I have. [21:05] http://www.airwaterice.com/product/HMTDS3/TDS3-Meter-with-Carrying-Case.html <-- my TDS meter [21:05] Funny thing is, it still reads 0 ppm after a few dozen gallons on a single filter. [21:06] CaZe: what kind of filtration, RO? [21:06] Ion exchange. [21:07] But even at 0 ppm, it tastes off, compared to distilled water. [21:07] I'm assuming it has a DI crtridge you can replace? or DI resin you can refill it with? [21:08] Replaceable cartridges. [21:08] They're pretty big. [21:08] ahh [21:08] Compared to the size of the pitcher, that is. [21:08] this is what I have: http://www.airwaterice.com/product/1TYPHOONIII/TYPHOON-III-AQUARIUM-RODI-75-or-100-GPD.html [21:08] It's probably like four times the size of a Brita filter. [21:09] yeah. DI needs a long contact time. [21:09] my parents just got a craaaazy reverse osmosis filter contraption [21:10] Still, I prefer distilled. [21:10] I only go through about 1/4 gallon per day, so the poor economics of making distilled water don't matter that much. [21:11] mine serves a dual purpose. drinking water for the sink faucet, drinking water for the water and ice dispenser in the fridge, and I have six 32 gallon brute containers that I keep full. [21:12] For when the well runs dry? [21:12] heh [21:12] no, for the reef aquariums [21:13] whoa cool [21:13] I keep 3 barrels of fresh DI water, and 3 barrels of slatwater mixed, circulated and temperature controlled for when I do my weekly water changes. [21:14] keeps the corals and fish happy :P [21:14] Why do you use DI? [21:15] to prevent algae blooms, and other side-effects [21:18] zerowater says the TDS in my area is 158 [21:27] lol [21:28] I don't think I'd trust that. [21:28] I just put in my zipcode. no results. so I added mine. I couldn't put in a 4 digit number, so I put in 999. 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