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qbit_: so that amd64 openbsd issue - did it ever get resolved?
timeout issue
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qbit_: :D
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up_the_irons: qbit_: looks like it was an isolated incident (reason unknown), b/c i was unable to reproduce it and other customers were able to upgrade to 5.1 without issue. On openbsd-misc ML, there were some that had problems, but last I read, the commit causing the issue was found (and yet, the issue doesn't appear for more ppl)
qbit_: yeah - i just updated mine with no problem
up_the_irons: s/more/most/
qbit_: cool, are you on amd64 or i386?
qbit_: amd64
up_the_irons: cool
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qbit_: CaZe: did you build that grinder you linkered me eleventybillion days ago?
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CaZe: qbit_: No, I bought it.
qbit_: ohsnap - maybe i am remembering a diff link.. this was one that some dudes put together
CaZe: Orphan Espresso?
qbit_: might have been
was a long time ago :P
CaZe: http://www.orphanespresso.com/OE-Pharos-Hand-Coffee-Grinder_c_392.html
qbit_: yes!
you bought one?
is it awesome?
CaZe: Yeah, but the grind catching funnel is kind weird.
Also, aligning the burrs takes some getting used to.
They have a portable version now that's cheaper.
http://www.orphanespresso.com/OE-LIDO-Hand-Coffee-Grinder_p_4682.html
qbit_: oh nice
CaZe: I'd get the second one if you're not doing much espresso.
qbit_: what do you think of the Rancilio Rocky?
CaZe: Never used it.
I prefer manual machines though.
qbit_: any particular reason youlike manual over powered?
CaZe: I think powered anything is simply overkill for making a single serving of coffee.
It adds to the cost, and makes repairs more expensive.
qbit_: makes sense
CaZe: And powered grinders are loud.
qbit_: what espresso machine do you have?
CaZe: La Pavoni Europiccola.
qbit_: awesome
do you filter your water?
CaZe: I distill my water.
I already use distiled water for making my own seltzer, so I always just have it around.
qbit_: cool
have you ever made tonic water?
CaZe: Also, I have a CO2 tank for making seltzer, which I also use for flushing the air out of my jars of green coffee.
No.
jpalmer: git cherry-pick is pure sex. git submodules are.. not so much.
qbit_: nice - i have a CO2 tank for homebrew
-: jpalmer has a saltwater tank. I don't drink the stuff. :)
qbit_: heh
CaZe: is there a big diff between using distiled and filtered?
jpalmer: i like modules.. just not removing them :P
CaZe: You mean in terms of taste?
Or quantified in terms of total dissolved solids?
My filtered tap water comes out at around 80 ppm.
Distilled water is 0 ppm.
jpalmer: qbit_: depends on the source, and the filtration. as an example.. my well has 1050 TDS. after my RO, it's around 89 TDS. after my DI canisters.. 0 TDS
CaZe: I've never really bothered to try and taste the difference though.
qbit_: heh
k
CaZe: Using distilled water also mean that you never have to descale the boiler.
qbit_: i mean in taste
that's nice
CaZe: I can taste the difference in seltzer though.
Carbonated filtered water tastes like ass compared to carbonated distilled water.
qbit_: do you make the distilled water yourself?
CaZe: Yes.
I have a distilling unit.
It works out to about $0.60 of electricity per gallon to run.
I still use filtered water though, for cooking.
I only use distilled water where I can perceive a difference.
Or if I want to avoid things like having to descale boilers.
qbit_: cool
jpalmer: what does TDS mean?
jpalmer: totald dissolved solids
qbit_: ah
so your well has 1050 tds per ?
jpalmer: qbit_: for refrence: TDS over 500 ppm, is considered unfit for human consumption by the US govt.
1050 ppm
qbit_: k
:D
CaZe: You can get a meter that tells you your TDS.
There's a water filter that comes with one for free.
One of those pitcher types.
http://www.zerowater.com/
That's actually what I have.
jpalmer: http://www.airwaterice.com/product/HMTDS3/TDS3-Meter-with-Carrying-Case.html <-- my TDS meter
CaZe: Funny thing is, it still reads 0 ppm after a few dozen gallons on a single filter.
jpalmer: CaZe: what kind of filtration, RO?
CaZe: Ion exchange.
But even at 0 ppm, it tastes off, compared to distilled water.
jpalmer: I'm assuming it has a DI crtridge you can replace? or DI resin you can refill it with?
CaZe: Replaceable cartridges.
They're pretty big.
jpalmer: ahh
CaZe: Compared to the size of the pitcher, that is.
jpalmer: this is what I have: http://www.airwaterice.com/product/1TYPHOONIII/TYPHOON-III-AQUARIUM-RODI-75-or-100-GPD.html
CaZe: It's probably like four times the size of a Brita filter.
jpalmer: yeah. DI needs a long contact time.
qbit_: my parents just got a craaaazy reverse osmosis filter contraption
CaZe: Still, I prefer distilled.
I only go through about 1/4 gallon per day, so the poor economics of making distilled water don't matter that much.
jpalmer: mine serves a dual purpose. drinking water for the sink faucet, drinking water for the water and ice dispenser in the fridge, and I have six 32 gallon brute containers that I keep full.
CaZe: For when the well runs dry?
qbit_: heh
jpalmer: no, for the reef aquariums
qbit_: whoa cool
jpalmer: I keep 3 barrels of fresh DI water, and 3 barrels of slatwater mixed, circulated and temperature controlled for when I do my weekly water changes.
keeps the corals and fish happy :P
CaZe: Why do you use DI?
jpalmer: to prevent algae blooms, and other side-effects
qbit_: zerowater says the TDS in my area is 158
jpalmer: lol
I don't think I'd trust that.
I just put in my zipcode. no results. so I added mine. I couldn't put in a 4 digit number, so I put in 999.
then when I seached my zipcode again, it said 460. so I searched again, now it said 218
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