so that amd64 openbsd issue - did it ever get resolved? timeout issue :D qbit_: looks like it was an isolated incident (reason unknown), b/c i was unable to reproduce it and other customers were able to upgrade to 5.1 without issue. On openbsd-misc ML, there were some that had problems, but last I read, the commit causing the issue was found (and yet, the issue doesn't appear for more ppl) yeah - i just updated mine with no problem s/more/most/ qbit_: cool, are you on amd64 or i386? amd64 cool CaZe: did you build that grinder you linkered me eleventybillion days ago? qbit_: No, I bought it. ohsnap - maybe i am remembering a diff link.. this was one that some dudes put together Orphan Espresso? might have been was a long time ago :P http://www.orphanespresso.com/OE-Pharos-Hand-Coffee-Grinder_c_392.html yes! you bought one? is it awesome? Yeah, but the grind catching funnel is kind weird. Also, aligning the burrs takes some getting used to. They have a portable version now that's cheaper. http://www.orphanespresso.com/OE-LIDO-Hand-Coffee-Grinder_p_4682.html oh nice I'd get the second one if you're not doing much espresso. what do you think of the Rancilio Rocky? Never used it. I prefer manual machines though. any particular reason youlike manual over powered? I think powered anything is simply overkill for making a single serving of coffee. It adds to the cost, and makes repairs more expensive. makes sense And powered grinders are loud. what espresso machine do you have? La Pavoni Europiccola. awesome do you filter your water? I distill my water. I already use distiled water for making my own seltzer, so I always just have it around. cool have you ever made tonic water? Also, I have a CO2 tank for making seltzer, which I also use for flushing the air out of my jars of green coffee. No. git cherry-pick is pure sex. git submodules are.. not so much. nice - i have a CO2 tank for homebrew heh CaZe: is there a big diff between using distiled and filtered? jpalmer: i like modules.. just not removing them :P You mean in terms of taste? Or quantified in terms of total dissolved solids? My filtered tap water comes out at around 80 ppm. Distilled water is 0 ppm. qbit_: depends on the source, and the filtration. as an example.. my well has 1050 TDS. after my RO, it's around 89 TDS. after my DI canisters.. 0 TDS I've never really bothered to try and taste the difference though. heh k Using distilled water also mean that you never have to descale the boiler. i mean in taste that's nice I can taste the difference in seltzer though. Carbonated filtered water tastes like ass compared to carbonated distilled water. do you make the distilled water yourself? Yes. I have a distilling unit. It works out to about $0.60 of electricity per gallon to run. I still use filtered water though, for cooking. I only use distilled water where I can perceive a difference. Or if I want to avoid things like having to descale boilers. cool jpalmer: what does TDS mean? totald dissolved solids ah so your well has 1050 tds per ? qbit_: for refrence: TDS over 500 ppm, is considered unfit for human consumption by the US govt. 1050 ppm k :D You can get a meter that tells you your TDS. There's a water filter that comes with one for free. One of those pitcher types. http://www.zerowater.com/ That's actually what I have. http://www.airwaterice.com/product/HMTDS3/TDS3-Meter-with-Carrying-Case.html <-- my TDS meter Funny thing is, it still reads 0 ppm after a few dozen gallons on a single filter. CaZe: what kind of filtration, RO? Ion exchange. But even at 0 ppm, it tastes off, compared to distilled water. I'm assuming it has a DI crtridge you can replace? or DI resin you can refill it with? Replaceable cartridges. They're pretty big. ahh Compared to the size of the pitcher, that is. this is what I have: http://www.airwaterice.com/product/1TYPHOONIII/TYPHOON-III-AQUARIUM-RODI-75-or-100-GPD.html It's probably like four times the size of a Brita filter. yeah. DI needs a long contact time. my parents just got a craaaazy reverse osmosis filter contraption Still, I prefer distilled. I only go through about 1/4 gallon per day, so the poor economics of making distilled water don't matter that much. mine serves a dual purpose. drinking water for the sink faucet, drinking water for the water and ice dispenser in the fridge, and I have six 32 gallon brute containers that I keep full. For when the well runs dry? heh no, for the reef aquariums whoa cool I keep 3 barrels of fresh DI water, and 3 barrels of slatwater mixed, circulated and temperature controlled for when I do my weekly water changes. keeps the corals and fish happy :P Why do you use DI? to prevent algae blooms, and other side-effects zerowater says the TDS in my area is 158 lol I don't think I'd trust that. I just put in my zipcode. no results. so I added mine. I couldn't put in a 4 digit number, so I put in 999. then when I seached my zipcode again, it said 460. so I searched again, now it said 218