Aha! Someone was telling me they couldn't send me email. (And they were getting that error.) mikeputnam: Yep, ARP Networks is pretty kickass. Once the clock strikes May 1st, count me in. mikeputnam: where are you located? Wisconsin Ah, I guess you'll probably have good connectivity then. Though I get 200ms on my connection in Australia. found ARP Networks via googling around for OpenBSD/kvm vps hosting and checking #openbsd I'm just runnning Linux. I could use FreeBSD because all the stuff I use should run on it. i saw 70ms worst-case in my traceroute very nice If I was on a fibre connection I would guess it would go down to 130 or so for me. here is my last hop: 13 ge0-arpnet.cust.lax07.mzima.net (67.199.135.102) 76.933 ms 74.974 ms 75.680 ms here is my last hop to Linode, but they don't do kvm hosting: 15 dallas1.linode.com (69.164.200.100) 49.454 ms 36.950 ms 44.349 ms plus ARP has more ram/disk/bandwidth than Linode for the same price point :) Eh. Linode gets way more fanfare than they deserve. Anyone use cpanel with an Arpnetworks VPS? hmm works again odd probably just a routing issue.