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Ozzer has joined #arpnetworks Ozzer: That's odd... ever seen a Linux server start saying the disk is full... and then you reboot it and everything is happy again? up_the_irons: Ozzer: yup, something held onto the file descriptor of w/e ate the disk, so it still looked full. When you rebooted, that process obviously died, so the disk space was free'd Ozzer: makes me feel a little better... was curious when I was doing df and not seeing anything reason the disk was reporting full
had myself thinking the machine was hacked up_the_irons: Ozzer: maybe something filled up /tmp
Ozzer: it's still weird that something ate the disk in the first place; you might wanna find that runaway proc jdoe: very probably the fd thing, /tmp would have been obvious Ozzer: yea, I found a 500meg (i think) of run away logs jdoe: Ozzer: if you did something like "SAW HUGE LOG FILE, TRUNCATED IT, WENT ON WITH YOUR LIFE", it was likely that. Ozzer: z-push was logging on an info level.. so it was raking up some disk space... jdoe: ugh
I wish z-push worked better for me :/ Ozzer: def a fan of the betas... the stable versions... not so much jdoe: dunno. I've never had one of them work properly for me.
I'd end up with a ton of php children left behind, or it would just stop pushing mail randomly, or...
it would also break things in annoying ways.
ie iOS's mail client has message threading.
... unless you use zpush. up_the_irons: haven't we already learned push is bad?
http://www.infrastructures.org/bootstrap/pushpull.shtml Ozzer: but poll for mobile devices = sad battery up_the_irons: Ozzer: LOL, true jdoe: Ozzer: false dichotomy, z-push is still polling :P Ozzer: :)
still worried about that server... guess I'll build a redundant server and then do a fresh server...
is my expectation wrong though? I always assumed that "df" would show me the true ballpark of free disk space
the only thing I saw was I had a ton of files sitting in my /var/logs area... so maybe I had used all the inodes ***: gcw|mbpro has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)
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Ehtyar has joined #arpnetworks jdoe: Ozzer: it does. Sorta.
you could argue df is reporting the filesystem disk space usage, in that it's reporting the space used by things that are actually files.
your unlinked log files still exist and still take up space, but they're only referenced by the fd, and when the fd is closed they'll go away. Ozzer: :) ***: fink has quit IRC (Quit: fink) kraigu: Ozzer: df -i tells you about inodes, but otherwise, what up_the_irons and jdoe already said ***: HighJinx has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)
HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks up_the_irons: Ozzer: yeah, what jdoe said. even unlinked ("deleted") files that have an open fd will count as disk space used jdoe: Ozzer: Yeah, what kraigu said up_the_irons said I said. kraigu: oh no, we're wikipedia up_the_irons: LOL jdoe: [[citation needed]] -: kraigu adds that to discussion page kraigu: let it wait five years up_the_irons: [[This article is outdated]] kraigu: even that's not reliable :(
I've seen [[citation needed]] on articles that haven't been updated otherwise for 2-3 years
temptation is to vote the article for removal at that point, since clearly nobody gaf about it jdoe: no, maintaining the NPOV on Minor_characters_in_Harry_Potter_slashfic is more important. zeshoem: up_the_irons: Not sure if you got my email request, but Centos 6 refuses to install with only 256 Megs of ram. I would like to try Centos 5 when you get a chance to swap the netinstall iso up_the_irons: zeshoem: yeah i got it, just busy, sorry jdoe: fyi, 5.x still recommends >256 kraigu: jdoe: hate you (re HP) jdoe: https://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=24101&forum=43 zeshoem: Thanks jdoe jdoe: also, ouch at centos... use it at work, hate it. Who the fuck likes an OS where the only supported path for a major version upgrade is dump, reinstall, load :P zeshoem: what is your preferred linux distro? up_the_irons: damn
ubuntu +1 ***: HighJinx has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) mhoran: Debian. ***: HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks kraigu: "freebsd" :P jdoe: unless 9 has pv drivers, fuck you ;) Lefty: pv?
paravirt?
from what I can google, 8 had PV drivers kraigu: jdoe: :D
you still didn't nominate your preference jdoe: duh. That leaves me free to criticize with zero risk of hypocrisy.
free from the constraints of internal consistency! kraigu: haha tooth: jdoe hates everything. duh
:-) kraigu: who doesn't? tooth: point. jdoe: barney. ***: pjs has quit IRC (*.net *.split)
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