[00:20] *** webhostbudd has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [00:22] *** webhostbudd has joined #arpnetworks [00:47] zeshoem: roger, i'll get that set up for you soon [00:57] *** webhostbudd has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) [00:58] *** webhostbudd has joined #arpnetworks [01:20] *** webhostbudd has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [05:40] *** gift has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [05:50] *** gift has joined #arpnetworks [06:31] *** jpalmer has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [06:31] *** jpalmer has joined #arpnetworks [07:42] *** himuraken has joined #arpnetworks [08:11] *** gcw|dormiendo is now known as gcw|mbpro [09:15] *** HighJinx has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) [10:08] *** HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks [10:30] *** webhostbudd has joined #arpnetworks [10:32] *** fink has joined #arpnetworks [11:47] *** Ozzer has joined #arpnetworks [11:54] :) [13:05] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [13:05] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [13:06] *** Ehtyar1 has quit IRC (Quit: IRC is just multiplayer notepad) [13:16] Ozzer: :) [13:37] *** Ozzer has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [13:42] *** Ozzer has joined #arpnetworks [13:50] *** Ozzer has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [13:56] *** Ozzer has joined #arpnetworks [14:00] That's odd... ever seen a Linux server start saying the disk is full... and then you reboot it and everything is happy again? [14:07] Ozzer: yup, something held onto the file descriptor of w/e ate the disk, so it still looked full. When you rebooted, that process obviously died, so the disk space was free'd [14:15] makes me feel a little better... was curious when I was doing df and not seeing anything reason the disk was reporting full [14:16] had myself thinking the machine was hacked [14:17] Ozzer: maybe something filled up /tmp [14:17] Ozzer: it's still weird that something ate the disk in the first place; you might wanna find that runaway proc [14:34] very probably the fd thing, /tmp would have been obvious [14:35] yea, I found a 500meg (i think) of run away logs [14:35] Ozzer: if you did something like "SAW HUGE LOG FILE, TRUNCATED IT, WENT ON WITH YOUR LIFE", it was likely that. [14:36] z-push was logging on an info level.. so it was raking up some disk space... [14:39] ugh [14:39] I wish z-push worked better for me :/ [14:40] def a fan of the betas... the stable versions... not so much [14:41] dunno. I've never had one of them work properly for me. [14:42] I'd end up with a ton of php children left behind, or it would just stop pushing mail randomly, or... [14:42] it would also break things in annoying ways. [14:42] ie iOS's mail client has message threading. [14:42] ... unless you use zpush. [14:58] haven't we already learned push is bad? [14:58] http://www.infrastructures.org/bootstrap/pushpull.shtml [15:17] but poll for mobile devices = sad battery [15:22] Ozzer: LOL, true [15:26] Ozzer: false dichotomy, z-push is still polling :P [15:28] :) [15:44] still worried about that server... guess I'll build a redundant server and then do a fresh server... [15:44] is my expectation wrong though? I always assumed that "df" would show me the true ballpark of free disk space [15:46] the only thing I saw was I had a ton of files sitting in my /var/logs area... so maybe I had used all the inodes [15:50] *** gcw|mbpro has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [15:51] *** gcw|mbpro has joined #arpnetworks [15:52] *** HighJinx has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [15:53] *** HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks [15:56] *** Ozzer` has joined #arpnetworks [15:56] *** Ozzer has quit IRC () [15:57] *** Ozzer` is now known as Ozzer [16:03] *** Ehtyar has joined #arpnetworks [16:21] Ozzer: it does. Sorta. [16:22] you could argue df is reporting the filesystem disk space usage, in that it's reporting the space used by things that are actually files. [16:22] your unlinked log files still exist and still take up space, but they're only referenced by the fd, and when the fd is closed they'll go away. [16:30] :) [17:00] *** fink has quit IRC (Quit: fink) [17:02] Ozzer: df -i tells you about inodes, but otherwise, what up_the_irons and jdoe already said [17:32] *** HighJinx has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [17:33] *** HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks [17:49] Ozzer: yeah, what jdoe said. even unlinked ("deleted") files that have an open fd will count as disk space used [17:50] Ozzer: Yeah, what kraigu said up_the_irons said I said. [17:50] oh no, we're wikipedia [17:51] LOL [17:53] [[citation needed]] [18:06] * kraigu adds that to discussion page [18:06] let it wait five years [18:07] [[This article is outdated]] [18:07] even that's not reliable :( [18:08] I've seen [[citation needed]] on articles that haven't been updated otherwise for 2-3 years [18:08] temptation is to vote the article for removal at that point, since clearly nobody gaf about it [18:14] no, maintaining the NPOV on Minor_characters_in_Harry_Potter_slashfic is more important. [18:15] up_the_irons: Not sure if you got my email request, but Centos 6 refuses to install with only 256 Megs of ram. I would like to try Centos 5 when you get a chance to swap the netinstall iso [18:15] zeshoem: yeah i got it, just busy, sorry [18:15] fyi, 5.x still recommends >256 [18:16] jdoe: hate you (re HP) [18:16] https://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=24101&forum=43 [18:17] Thanks jdoe [18:17] also, ouch at centos... use it at work, hate it. Who the fuck likes an OS where the only supported path for a major version upgrade is dump, reinstall, load :P [18:19] what is your preferred linux distro? [18:22] damn [18:22] ubuntu +1 [18:52] *** HighJinx has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) [19:06] Debian. [19:40] *** HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks [19:53] "freebsd" :P [19:54] unless 9 has pv drivers, fuck you ;) [19:55] pv? [19:55] paravirt? [19:56] from what I can google, 8 had PV drivers [20:00] jdoe: :D [20:00] you still didn't nominate your preference [20:01] duh. That leaves me free to criticize with zero risk of hypocrisy. [20:01] free from the constraints of internal consistency! [20:09] haha [20:17] jdoe hates everything. duh [20:17] :-) [20:27] who doesn't? [20:36] point. [20:45] barney. [21:44] *** pjs has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [21:46] *** pjs has joined #arpnetworks [22:14] *** Ozzer` has joined #arpnetworks [22:15] *** Ozzer has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [22:55] *** webhostbudd has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)