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| up_the_irons | zeshoem: roger, i'll get that set up for you soon | [00:47] |
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| Ozzer | :) | [11:54] |
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| up_the_irons | Ozzer: :) | [13:16] |
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| Ozzer | That's odd... ever seen a Linux server start saying the disk is full... and then you reboot it and everything is happy again? | [14:00] |
| up_the_irons | Ozzer: yup, something held onto the file descriptor of w/e ate the disk, so it still looked full. When you rebooted, that process obviously died, so the disk space was free'd | [14:07] |
| Ozzer | makes me feel a little better... was curious when I was doing df and not seeing anything reason the disk was reporting full
had myself thinking the machine was hacked | [14:15] |
| up_the_irons | Ozzer: maybe something filled up /tmp
Ozzer: it's still weird that something ate the disk in the first place; you might wanna find that runaway proc | [14:17] |
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| jdoe | very probably the fd thing, /tmp would have been obvious | [14:34] |
| Ozzer | yea, I found a 500meg (i think) of run away logs | [14:35] |
| jdoe | Ozzer: if you did something like "SAW HUGE LOG FILE, TRUNCATED IT, WENT ON WITH YOUR LIFE", it was likely that. | [14:35] |
| Ozzer | z-push was logging on an info level.. so it was raking up some disk space... | [14:36] |
| jdoe | ugh
I wish z-push worked better for me :/ | [14:39] |
| Ozzer | def a fan of the betas... the stable versions... not so much | [14:40] |
| jdoe | dunno. I've never had one of them work properly for me.
I'd end up with a ton of php children left behind, or it would just stop pushing mail randomly, or... it would also break things in annoying ways. ie iOS's mail client has message threading. ... unless you use zpush. | [14:41] |
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| up_the_irons | haven't we already learned push is bad?
http://www.infrastructures.org/bootstrap/pushpull.shtml | [14:58] |
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| Ozzer | but poll for mobile devices = sad battery | [15:17] |
| up_the_irons | Ozzer: LOL, true | [15:22] |
| jdoe | Ozzer: false dichotomy, z-push is still polling :P | [15:26] |
| Ozzer | :) | [15:28] |
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| still worried about that server... guess I'll build a redundant server and then do a fresh server...
is my expectation wrong though? I always assumed that "df" would show me the true ballpark of free disk space the only thing I saw was I had a ton of files sitting in my /var/logs area... so maybe I had used all the inodes | [15:44] | |
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| jdoe | Ozzer: it does. Sorta.
you could argue df is reporting the filesystem disk space usage, in that it's reporting the space used by things that are actually files. your unlinked log files still exist and still take up space, but they're only referenced by the fd, and when the fd is closed they'll go away. | [16:21] |
| Ozzer | :) | [16:30] |
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| kraigu | Ozzer: df -i tells you about inodes, but otherwise, what up_the_irons and jdoe already said | [17:02] |
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| up_the_irons | Ozzer: yeah, what jdoe said. even unlinked ("deleted") files that have an open fd will count as disk space used | [17:49] |
| jdoe | Ozzer: Yeah, what kraigu said up_the_irons said I said. | [17:50] |
| kraigu | oh no, we're wikipedia | [17:50] |
| up_the_irons | LOL | [17:51] |
| jdoe | [[citation needed]] | [17:53] |
| kraigu | kraigu adds that to discussion page
let it wait five years | [18:06] |
| up_the_irons | [[This article is outdated]] | [18:07] |
| kraigu | even that's not reliable :(
I've seen [[citation needed]] on articles that haven't been updated otherwise for 2-3 years temptation is to vote the article for removal at that point, since clearly nobody gaf about it | [18:07] |
| jdoe | no, maintaining the NPOV on Minor_characters_in_Harry_Potter_slashfic is more important. | [18:14] |
| zeshoem | up_the_irons: Not sure if you got my email request, but Centos 6 refuses to install with only 256 Megs of ram. I would like to try Centos 5 when you get a chance to swap the netinstall iso | [18:15] |
| up_the_irons | zeshoem: yeah i got it, just busy, sorry | [18:15] |
| jdoe | fyi, 5.x still recommends >256 | [18:15] |
| kraigu | jdoe: hate you (re HP) | [18:16] |
| jdoe | https://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=24101&forum=43 | [18:16] |
| zeshoem | Thanks jdoe | [18:17] |
| jdoe | also, ouch at centos... use it at work, hate it. Who the fuck likes an OS where the only supported path for a major version upgrade is dump, reinstall, load :P | [18:17] |
| zeshoem | what is your preferred linux distro? | [18:19] |
| up_the_irons | damn
ubuntu +1 | [18:22] |
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| mhoran | Debian. | [19:06] |
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| kraigu | "freebsd" :P | [19:53] |
| jdoe | unless 9 has pv drivers, fuck you ;) | [19:54] |
| Lefty | pv?
paravirt? from what I can google, 8 had PV drivers | [19:55] |
| kraigu | jdoe: :D
you still didn't nominate your preference | [20:00] |
| jdoe | duh. That leaves me free to criticize with zero risk of hypocrisy.
free from the constraints of internal consistency! | [20:01] |
| kraigu | haha | [20:09] |
| tooth | jdoe hates everything. duh
:-) | [20:17] |
| kraigu | who doesn't? | [20:27] |
| tooth | point. | [20:36] |
| jdoe | barney. | [20:45] |
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