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[07:28] <notau> http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/world/wikileaks-eyes-sensational-bildt-leak/story-e6frea8l-1226278885186
[08:20] <jdoe> why do I have a feeling it's just going to be a diplomat being a diplomat? heh.
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[15:56] <ix33> arp networks is awesome.
[15:57] <ix33> up_the_irons: kudos
[16:14] <up_the_irons> whoa
[16:14] <up_the_irons> thank you!
[16:14] <up_the_irons> ix33: glad you like us :)
[16:15] <ix33> $ uptime
[16:15] <ix33> 12:15AM  up 258 days, 19:38, 2 users, load averages: 0.15, 0.15, 0.14
[16:15] <ix33> $ uptime
[16:15] <ix33> 12:16AM  up 339 days, 20:02, 1 user, load averages: 0.10, 0.08, 0.08
[16:16] <ix33> running openbsd 4.9 on each since release
[16:50] <jdoe> oh right, I still need to sack up and reboot... hope the virtio stuff works :P
[17:34] <motherbrain> Does anybody know how hard it would be if you where an expert at cisco networks to learn how to setup,...etc HP or Juniper or the rest of the network devices non-cisco based?
[17:35] <motherbrain> would it take a long time to learn if you where CCIE and wanted to work with non-cisco based networks
[17:38] <kraigu> no
[17:38] <kraigu> our cisco guys did just that :
[17:38] <kraigu> :P
[17:39] <kraigu> (I figured out the juniper stuff myself, and I'm stupid)
[17:50] <jpalmer> motherbrain: the hardest part of the whole thing,  would be understanding the fundamental networking stuff.  after that,  gear is just gear.  you may have to learn it's specific interfaces and configuration settings/capabilities..  but routing is routing.
[17:53] <motherbrain> true but some times if the software wasn't IOS it may take along time to learn what everything means and the equivalent commands. I just was curious weather they all keep pretty much the same type of interface / hardware configuration interfaces ,...etc. SO it won't take a whole new learning curve steep
[17:53] <motherbrain> to find what you are looking for.
[17:54] <kraigu> there's cheat sheets for a lot of that, I've seen ios/junos stuff
[17:55] <motherbrain> For example if you knew the fundamentals of everything you would still have to know how to physically do it on the new network hardware/software. And this is what I am curious if anybody has experience in the transition and how long it to them... interms of learning curve ,...etc
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