#arpnetworks 2012-02-14,Tue

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ninorany downtime lately? [14:28]
toothnot that I have noticed. [14:28]
ninorhow's fbsd 9 shaping up in production? [14:31]
webhostbuddit's nice
i can't say i would stick with it though. I mean, the biggest reason for using it is zfs
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toothis it native zfs? [14:35]
webhostbuddit's been worked into the kernel since version 7.4
i don't think it's considered native unless it is solaris though right?
technically it is a port from there
the performance is good though
granted, you need a ton of ram just for the filesystem
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ninorf that
i don't use new file systems
but how's fbsd 9 as a server
web/ftp/db/etc
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webhostbuddit's not new....
not by any means
as a server is is pretty good, especially when you get proper jailing setup
compiling from source is slightly a pain on arch
freebsd
mostly because of the limited space on the virtual machine to begin with
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jdoetooth: it's native zfs, but... [15:30]
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ninorarch?
are there console connections we can ssh into and then login to a non wheel user then su ?
i prefer that to directly ssh'ing into a shell
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meingtslaYou can ssh into a console if you want, but you'll probably find it easier to ssh in directly :) [15:51]
ninorok so arpN does offer that? excellent [15:53]
meingtslaYeah
You can also vnc in
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ninorthanks meingtsla [15:55]
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jpalmerfbsd 9 went with zfs as the default FS? [16:18]
jdoeno
thankfully "delusional enough to call it 'production ready'" isn't the same as "full retard"
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jpalmerhehe I was gonna say [16:22]
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bill```hi, i just registered an account and want to add a vps... do i have to logout and go back to the main site to place the order?
or do i just place the order from the main site and mention my login name in the comments
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jdoethe latter should be fine... [16:24]
bill```ok, thanks
unrelated: is there something weird going on with the internet at large in north america and asia? seeing insane packetloss and crap throughput everywhere
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jdoeif everything sucks, seems more likely it's a problem on your end. [16:33]
bill```nah, it's our datacenters in hong kong and san jose and new jersey
seeing throughput 1/5 of what it was two months ago
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ninorbill```, whoa
i've actually noticed over the past 2-3 mo my home dsl connection being noticeably slower
i've been kinda monitoring it, talking to others
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bill```internet traffic report says asia is at 33% packetloss and NA is at 25% [16:36]
ninorhaven't heard much, so your info is interesting [16:36]
bill```yeah, i've been looking but no one is talking about it [16:36]
ninorif i had to bet money knowing nothing about the situation, it'd be that snooping equipment is being installed at hubs [16:36]
bill```haha :) [16:36]
ninori'm actually serious [16:36]
bill```i wouldn't really be surprised if you're right [16:37]
ninorwhat else would cause a general degradation in network performance over an extended period of time but a network wide roll out of some kind of tech
i think up_the_irons could probably investigate this and get back to us
bill, could you ride the NOCs of your other DCs hard and report back?
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bill```i have zero knowledge of how the core internet routers function other than the fact that they use bgp/bgmp, so i have no idea where to even look for info
we already ride them hard
200,000 requests/sec
(http)
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ninorno i mean talking to your upstream providers, at the NOC, and asking wtf the deal is with throughput
not your account manager, but actual NOC monkeys
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bill```gotcha, i think we have a ticket in for that [16:39]
ninornice. /msg me what you hear? [16:39]
jlgaddislol at asking the noc monkeys [16:39]
bill```i'm in SF and doing 70k/s to theplanet in texas
crossing one major provider...
100k/s to singapore
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ninorheh
sounds fishy
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bill```singapore is usually around 300-400k/s from here or fremont [16:40]
ninorbtw what are you guys serving? if you can say the site
fremont WA?
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bill```it's ad industry, not really interesting [16:40]
ninorah [16:40]
bill```no, california [16:40]
ninoryea, not interesting
oh
anyway gotta bail toodles!
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bill```see ya, thanks [16:40]
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