#arpnetworks 2012-02-09,Thu

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LeftyAnyone here use a hosted monitoring solution and have any recommendations for or against?
We're looking to supplement our current Nagios implementation, but have something entirely decoupled from our network infrastructure
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up_the_ironsi was actually looking for the same thing... [13:16]
Leftywe're checking out Pingdom, and Site24x7
so far no clear winners
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up_the_ironsyeah, I don't like Pingdom for some reason.. also it is pretty expensive for what it is [13:18]
Leftythe only things we really need are sms+email alerting and URL monitoring [13:19]
henderbI've got cloudkick monitoring http, https, and ping on my vm, but it looks like they are in the middle of a transition to becoming "Rackspace Cloud Monitoring" [13:20]
Leftysince our in-house monitoring system takes care of the rest, we just want to know if customer-facing sites are not responding
henderb: yeah, that kinda rules them out
and illustrates one of the problems with SaaS providers
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up_the_ironswhat problem is that? [13:23]
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Leftythat they can just randomly decide that the service you use is deprecated, forcing you to migrate [13:25]
up_the_ironsah, LOL, yeah [13:25]
Leftyeither to their new SaaS system, or to someone else [13:25]
up_the_ironsright
kinda like the problem of migrating Slicehost customers to Rackspace Cloud, and all the IP renumbering outcry that came with it
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Leftyyeah... people hate renumbering [13:26]
up_the_ironsso that problem exists in *aaS (any service ;) [13:26]
LeftyWe're renumbering our office so we can switch from business-grade (hah) cable + a T1 backup line to a much nicer E100 line
it's only ~16 IPs, but that's difficult enough, I couldn't imagine doing an entire cloud
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portertechnot a fan of pingdom, I usually just setup a remote app to monitor from the outside
http://wasitup.com/ is not too shabby
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up_the_ironsE100 line? [13:34]
Leftyyeah, something the local providers offer, it's a 100Mbit ethernet port directly to the premises [13:34]
up_the_ironsnice!
where are you located?
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Leftyless hassle for the provider, as they don't have to worry about CPE and translating the signal to whatever they use on their fiber etc
downtown Vancouver
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up_the_ironsah cool [13:35]
henderbAbout how much does better service like that cost? Our office is only 4 blocks from the Pittock IX in Portland and I keep wondering what it would take to get fiber or something and move our comcast to backup duty [13:36]
LeftyI don't see the bills, so I have no idea
it's definitely more than "business"-grade cable/DSL, but generally the SLAs are much better
my last job had 10Mbit symmetrical fiber, with no transfer cap
it never went down in the five years I managed it
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up_the_ironsLefty: what medium are they using to deliver the 100 Mpbs, fiber? copper? coax ;) [13:38]
LeftyI believe it's fiber to the building, and then they distribute it via copper from the demarc downstairs [13:39]
up_the_ironsroger [13:39]
Leftyreally the only difference is the signalling used [13:39]
up_the_ironsyeah [13:39]
portertechLefty: nice, another vancouverite? [13:41]
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Leftyportertech: aye! [14:28]
portertechLefty: where you working?
local?
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Leftyairg.com
on Melville
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portertechLefty: nice, do you guys ever lend out your office space for local meetups? [14:30]
LeftyNot that I know of, but I've only been here a couple of months [14:30]
portertechrelocated?
or just job swithc
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Leftyrecently hired [14:31]
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jlgaddisLefty: i've used pingdom for quite a while and have been happy with them
you could always put a nagios box on an arp vps to monitor your external facing stuff
jlgaddis might do just that in the near future
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up_the_ironsanyone have experience with the pub/sub capabilities of redis?
considering it for real-time notifications...
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portertechup_the_irons: I've played w/ it [18:58]
up_the_ironsportertech: any good? [18:58]
portertechnice and lightweight, simple queuing
high throughput, since it all resides in memory
and you get some persistence
depending on settings
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up_the_ironsah
interesting
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portertechhttp://redis.io/topics/pubsub
<3 those docs
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up_the_ironsyup, already looking at those :)
the doc for the "ping" command is interactive ;)
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portertechre persistence, only works when making your own fifo, not pub/sub [19:00]
up_the_ironsroger [19:01]
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