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Lefty: Anyone here use a hosted monitoring solution and have any recommendations for or against?
We're looking to supplement our current Nagios implementation, but have something entirely decoupled from our network infrastructure
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up_the_irons: i was actually looking for the same thing...
Lefty: we're checking out Pingdom, and Site24x7
so far no clear winners
up_the_irons: yeah, I don't like Pingdom for some reason.. also it is pretty expensive for what it is
Lefty: the only things we really need are sms+email alerting and URL monitoring
henderb: I've got cloudkick monitoring http, https, and ping on my vm, but it looks like they are in the middle of a transition to becoming "Rackspace Cloud Monitoring"
Lefty: since our in-house monitoring system takes care of the rest, we just want to know if customer-facing sites are not responding
henderb: yeah, that kinda rules them out
and illustrates one of the problems with SaaS providers
up_the_irons: what problem is that?
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Lefty: that they can just randomly decide that the service you use is deprecated, forcing you to migrate
up_the_irons: ah, LOL, yeah
Lefty: either to their new SaaS system, or to someone else
up_the_irons: right
kinda like the problem of migrating Slicehost customers to Rackspace Cloud, and all the IP renumbering outcry that came with it
Lefty: yeah... people hate renumbering
up_the_irons: so that problem exists in *aaS (any service ;)
Lefty: We're renumbering our office so we can switch from business-grade (hah) cable + a T1 backup line to a much nicer E100 line
it's only ~16 IPs, but that's difficult enough, I couldn't imagine doing an entire cloud
portertech: not a fan of pingdom, I usually just setup a remote app to monitor from the outside
http://wasitup.com/ is not too shabby
up_the_irons: E100 line?
Lefty: yeah, something the local providers offer, it's a 100Mbit ethernet port directly to the premises
up_the_irons: nice!
where are you located?
Lefty: less hassle for the provider, as they don't have to worry about CPE and translating the signal to whatever they use on their fiber etc
downtown Vancouver
up_the_irons: ah cool
henderb: About how much does better service like that cost? Our office is only 4 blocks from the Pittock IX in Portland and I keep wondering what it would take to get fiber or something and move our comcast to backup duty
Lefty: I don't see the bills, so I have no idea
it's definitely more than "business"-grade cable/DSL, but generally the SLAs are much better
my last job had 10Mbit symmetrical fiber, with no transfer cap
it never went down in the five years I managed it
up_the_irons: Lefty: what medium are they using to deliver the 100 Mpbs, fiber? copper? coax ;)
Lefty: I believe it's fiber to the building, and then they distribute it via copper from the demarc downstairs
up_the_irons: roger
Lefty: really the only difference is the signalling used
up_the_irons: yeah
portertech: Lefty: nice, another vancouverite?
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Lefty: portertech: aye!
portertech: Lefty: where you working?
local?
Lefty: airg.com
on Melville
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portertech: Lefty: nice, do you guys ever lend out your office space for local meetups?
Lefty: Not that I know of, but I've only been here a couple of months
portertech: relocated?
or just job swithc
Lefty: recently hired
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jlgaddis: Lefty: i've used pingdom for quite a while and have been happy with them
you could always put a nagios box on an arp vps to monitor your external facing stuff
-: jlgaddis might do just that in the near future
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up_the_irons: anyone have experience with the pub/sub capabilities of redis?
considering it for real-time notifications...
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portertech: up_the_irons: I've played w/ it
up_the_irons: portertech: any good?
portertech: nice and lightweight, simple queuing
high throughput, since it all resides in memory
and you get some persistence
depending on settings
up_the_irons: ah
interesting
portertech: http://redis.io/topics/pubsub
<3 those docs
up_the_irons: yup, already looking at those :)
the doc for the "ping" command is interactive ;)
portertech: re persistence, only works when making your own fifo, not pub/sub
up_the_irons: roger
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