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Lefty | Anyone here use a hosted monitoring solution and have any recommendations for or against?
We're looking to supplement our current Nagios implementation, but have something entirely decoupled from our network infrastructure | [13:13] |
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up_the_irons | i was actually looking for the same thing... | [13:16] |
Lefty | we're checking out Pingdom, and Site24x7
so far no clear winners | [13:18] |
up_the_irons | yeah, I don't like Pingdom for some reason.. also it is pretty expensive for what it is | [13:18] |
Lefty | the only things we really need are sms+email alerting and URL monitoring | [13:19] |
henderb | I've got cloudkick monitoring http, https, and ping on my vm, but it looks like they are in the middle of a transition to becoming "Rackspace Cloud Monitoring" | [13:20] |
Lefty | since our in-house monitoring system takes care of the rest, we just want to know if customer-facing sites are not responding
henderb: yeah, that kinda rules them out and illustrates one of the problems with SaaS providers | [13:20] |
up_the_irons | what problem is that? | [13:23] |
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Lefty | that they can just randomly decide that the service you use is deprecated, forcing you to migrate | [13:25] |
up_the_irons | ah, LOL, yeah | [13:25] |
Lefty | either to their new SaaS system, or to someone else | [13:25] |
up_the_irons | right
kinda like the problem of migrating Slicehost customers to Rackspace Cloud, and all the IP renumbering outcry that came with it | [13:25] |
Lefty | yeah... people hate renumbering | [13:26] |
up_the_irons | so that problem exists in *aaS (any service ;) | [13:26] |
Lefty | We're renumbering our office so we can switch from business-grade (hah) cable + a T1 backup line to a much nicer E100 line
it's only ~16 IPs, but that's difficult enough, I couldn't imagine doing an entire cloud | [13:29] |
portertech | not a fan of pingdom, I usually just setup a remote app to monitor from the outside
http://wasitup.com/ is not too shabby | [13:33] |
up_the_irons | E100 line? | [13:34] |
Lefty | yeah, something the local providers offer, it's a 100Mbit ethernet port directly to the premises | [13:34] |
up_the_irons | nice!
where are you located? | [13:35] |
Lefty | less hassle for the provider, as they don't have to worry about CPE and translating the signal to whatever they use on their fiber etc
downtown Vancouver | [13:35] |
up_the_irons | ah cool | [13:35] |
henderb | About how much does better service like that cost? Our office is only 4 blocks from the Pittock IX in Portland and I keep wondering what it would take to get fiber or something and move our comcast to backup duty | [13:36] |
Lefty | I don't see the bills, so I have no idea
it's definitely more than "business"-grade cable/DSL, but generally the SLAs are much better my last job had 10Mbit symmetrical fiber, with no transfer cap it never went down in the five years I managed it | [13:37] |
up_the_irons | Lefty: what medium are they using to deliver the 100 Mpbs, fiber? copper? coax ;) | [13:38] |
Lefty | I believe it's fiber to the building, and then they distribute it via copper from the demarc downstairs | [13:39] |
up_the_irons | roger | [13:39] |
Lefty | really the only difference is the signalling used | [13:39] |
up_the_irons | yeah | [13:39] |
portertech | Lefty: nice, another vancouverite? | [13:41] |
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Lefty | portertech: aye! | [14:28] |
portertech | Lefty: where you working?
local? | [14:28] |
Lefty | airg.com
on Melville | [14:29] |
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portertech | Lefty: nice, do you guys ever lend out your office space for local meetups? | [14:30] |
Lefty | Not that I know of, but I've only been here a couple of months | [14:30] |
portertech | relocated?
or just job swithc | [14:30] |
Lefty | recently hired | [14:31] |
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jlgaddis | Lefty: i've used pingdom for quite a while and have been happy with them
you could always put a nagios box on an arp vps to monitor your external facing stuff jlgaddis might do just that in the near future | [15:32] |
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up_the_irons | anyone have experience with the pub/sub capabilities of redis?
considering it for real-time notifications... | [18:51] |
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portertech | up_the_irons: I've played w/ it | [18:58] |
up_the_irons | portertech: any good? | [18:58] |
portertech | nice and lightweight, simple queuing
high throughput, since it all resides in memory and you get some persistence depending on settings | [18:59] |
up_the_irons | ah
interesting | [18:59] |
portertech | http://redis.io/topics/pubsub
<3 those docs | [18:59] |
up_the_irons | yup, already looking at those :)
the doc for the "ping" command is interactive ;) | [19:00] |
portertech | re persistence, only works when making your own fifo, not pub/sub | [19:00] |
up_the_irons | roger | [19:01] |
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