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[09:06] wouldn't do that on linux if you value performance [09:06] Just Windows 7, but I might consider dual booting with Linux at some point. [09:06] but on windows I'd go ATI for sure. [09:07] Yeah, that's been my problem for years. ATI is kinda lacking on Linux drivers. [09:07] it's okay now if you buy old enough [09:07] (5xxx) [09:07] I was looking at the 6xxx series as a possible option. [09:07] the open source ones are catching up. [09:08] http://goo.gl/8lc45 - nVidia did this. [09:08] ... 15 years ago? [09:08] hold a grudge much? :P [09:08] What have they done since? [09:12] well it's still "unmaintainable" since it's a blob, so I imagine you'd still have an issue with that. [09:12] I fall more into the "I just want it to work" camp. [09:29] *** LT has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [09:31] *** HighJinx has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) [09:34] In the meantime, Intel have released full specs, drivers, and work with the open source community. So I just use integrated graphics. [09:34] Might not be the most pretty thing in the world, but at least I don't need no stinkin' blobs. [09:52] *** HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks [10:06] *** cmeiklejohn has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [10:07] *** cmeiklejohn has joined #arpnetworks [10:08] *** fink has joined #arpnetworks [10:18] mhoran: different strokes for different folks... if I was building a workstation, I'd go integrated for... well, exactly why you said. If I wanted to play a game at some point, I wouldn't. [10:33] *** jpalmer has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [10:35] Yup. I don't game, so there's that. :) [10:41] *** jpalmer has joined #arpnetworks [11:39] *** phrac has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [11:41] *** phrac has joined #arpnetworks [13:07] *** HighJinx has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [13:37] *** HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks [14:09] *** Ehtyar has joined #arpnetworks [14:29] *** HighJinx has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [14:29] *** HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks [15:02] *** fink has quit IRC (Quit: fink) [15:46] *** dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks [15:46] *** dj_goku has quit IRC (Changing host) [15:46] *** dj_goku has joined #arpnetworks [16:32] i remember some guy from ati/amd saying years ago at red hat summit about how they were gonna open source everything [16:32] still hasn't happened :/ [16:36] seems unlikely. [16:37] I doubt they could, even if they wanted to. [16:43] http://itknowledgeexchange.techtarget.com/enterprise-linux/amd-will-deliver-open-graphics-drivers/ [16:57] doesn't explicitly say what he said. [16:57] iirc they improved cooperation with the open development (the radeon/radeonhd stuff) ... but I doubt they can actually open the drivers, they almost certainly don't own all the IP. [16:59] well i was there [16:59] he said it :P [17:25] * jdoe shrugs. [17:26] I doubt they own the IP. They can probably open the specs on some things, but I'm ~100% sure they can't 'just' opensource the driver. [17:40] ati doesn't own the IP to the drivers for their own cards? [17:43] they almost certainly license some of it, yes. [17:53] hmm, perhaps. you would think an EVP would know better than to promise something (quite publicly) that they couldn't deliver on, though. [18:58] *** webhostbudd has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) 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