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[00:36] <jlgaddis> up_the_irons: do you still honor the "EVIL" code?
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[03:08] <up_the_irons> jlgaddis: sure
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[06:06] <jlgaddis> probably gonna write an article over the weekend about my stats yesterday (72,567 total page views, normal average is ~2,000) and how well my vps/nginx held up.  =)
[06:07] <jlgaddis> so if nothing else maybe you'll get a new customer or two out of it.  seems like you usually do whenever i write something about arp.
[06:07] <jlgaddis> really fucking impressed w/ nginx.  several months ago, i decided to try it out when apache shit itself at waaaaaay lower levels.
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[06:40] <up_the_irons> jlgaddis: awesome, tnx!
[06:40] <up_the_irons> yeah, nginx is pretty fast
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[06:44] * tooth plays exiting type music
[06:47] <mike-burns> Oop, you know what the music means.
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[11:51] <pjs> jlgaddis is it static html or serving something behind nginx?
[12:33] <jlgaddis> it's wordpress, so php
[12:33] <jlgaddis> i use a caching plugin though
[12:35] <jlgaddis> the first time $page is requested, it generates .html and .html.gz versions of the page. on subsequent requests for $page, it'll serve those up instead, as long as the cached version hasn't expired
[12:35] <jlgaddis> also, all the static stuff (images, .css, .js, etc) is served up by amazon cloudfront
[13:06] <pjs> gotcha
[13:08] <jdoe> wp-supercache or whatever
[13:35] <up_the_irons> don't ask for an android charger at LA RubyConf
[13:36] <up_the_irons> i got weird looks
[13:36] <up_the_irons> then i asked for USB Type B cable (the regular standard charging cable)
[13:36] <up_the_irons> weird looks again
[13:38] * up_the_irons is bored
[13:39] <jdoe> I really, really need to find a new job. There are currently 5 people in a remote office working on the problem of "Is a machine powered on" for me :/
[13:39] <up_the_irons> LOL
[13:39] <up_the_irons> jdoe: what do u do?
[13:40] * mike-burns looks at up_the_irons weirdly.
[13:41] <tooth> jdoe, hilarious.
[13:41] <tooth> cue "how many admins does it take to find a power switch" joke
[13:43] <jdoe> up_the_irons: I'm a sysadmin.
[13:44] <jlgaddis> up_the_irons: they're ruby devs, what do you expect besides blank stares?  :P
[13:44] <jdoe> up_the_irons: the remote office is in buttfuck nowhere, has no useful technical staff, and has poor infrastructure (flaky power/internet) -- so naturally I've been tasked with replacing their POTS system with voip.
[13:44] <jdoe> kill me now.
[13:45] <tooth> jdoe, I am sending you a package which you should open right away. do not pay any attention to the ticking.
[13:54] <jdoe> problem solved.
[13:54] <jdoe> root cause: several of my coworkers can't distinguish betwen a 1U that's on and a 1U that's off.
[13:54] <jdoe> taking the rest of the day off with a bottle of JD.
[14:01] <up_the_irons> jlgaddis: LOL
[14:01] <up_the_irons> jdoe: hah
[14:01] <up_the_irons> do i need to bring out my x serve pic again?
[14:01] <jdoe> sure. What is it?
[14:04] <up_the_irons> looking.. my netbook is slow...
[14:06] <jdoe> my only (recent) server room wtf is http://falseprophet.ca/~jdoe/fusing.jpg ... not pictured: the door that opens (literally into) that rickety table, that it was just sitting there for a long time, etc. etc.
[14:06] <jdoe> can't find the "THESE WALLS ARE ASBESTOS, LEAVE THEM ALONE signs, next to giant holes knocked in the walls" picture :/
[14:06] <up_the_irons> http://www.flickr.com/photos/51184165@N00/2174345059/in/photostream
[14:07] <up_the_irons> omg
[14:07] <up_the_irons> jdoe: what the F is that thing??
[14:08] <jdoe> dunno what the proper name for it is, I've always heard them called fusing cabinets.
[14:09] <jdoe> I believe in that case it's linking local stuff to CA*net (internet2 if you prefer)
[14:13] <up_the_irons> jdoe: crazy
[14:16] <up_the_irons> I just opened up 3 slots for 4GB beefy VPS', thinking of running a special at $89, or even $79 each; only three left, first to get 'em gets 'em!
[14:17] <up_the_irons> i wonder how much 8GB sticks of FB-DIMMs are...
[14:17] * up_the_irons googles
[14:19] <jdoe> not THAT bad.
[14:19] <up_the_irons> if anyone cares, I have almost 900GB of FB-DIMMs in my whole cluster, all Corsair.  Only 1 stick has failed.  So, go Corsair!
[14:20] <jdoe> haha.
[14:20] * jdoe stabs the fuck out of whatever silicon mechanics ships
[14:20] <up_the_irons> LOL
[14:20] <jdoe> we've had a *lot* of that go bad.
[14:20] <up_the_irons> jdoe: o'rly?
[14:20] <jdoe> yeah. I think I've replaced at least one stick from every machine.
[14:20] <jdoe> though it's not quite as bad as whatever's in the HP blade server.
[14:20] <up_the_irons> oh wait, excuse me, not Corsair.  Crucial!
[14:20] <up_the_irons> i always get that mixed up
[14:20] <jdoe> I do like crucial.
[14:22] <up_the_irons> been quite reliable
[14:29] <jdoe> I dunno, I've never had problems with desktop ram the way I do with whatever's in these boxes.
[14:41] <up_the_irons> haha
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[15:35] <jpalmer> in my entire life,  I've ordered a shitton of ram for myself and customers.  I've found "crucial" to be good RAM.  and in that time,  only 1 stick needed to be returned.  and even better,   their RMA process was painless.  they overnighted the cross-shipment.
[15:45] <up_the_irons> wow nice
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[16:24] <ninor> yea good point
[16:24] <ninor> quality ram matters
[16:24] <ninor> i wonder what arpnetworks buys
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[16:29] <jpalmer> ninor: up_the_irons just said they buy crucial
[16:29] <jpalmer> up_the_irons == garry == owner
[16:42] <ninor> oh
[16:42] <ninor> i used to use corsair
[16:42] <ninor> was really nice. but that was years ago
[16:42] <ninor> silicon mechanics? i used to use their servers too
[16:42] <ninor> they're only a few miles from where my datacenter was
[16:43] <ninor> er sorry, they're up here in Seattle
[17:19] <mhoran> Yeah I've had good luck with Crucial too.
[17:19] <mhoran> Had Corsair as well. No issues.
[17:20] <mhoran> I really haven't had any RAM issues. So I'm a bad sample.
[17:25] * jpalmer just re-enabled IPv6 on his VPS.  didn't configure it when I installed CentOS6.
[17:39] <jdoe> centos :|
[17:39] <jdoe> ninor: I have nothing against SM. I suspect our woes are environmental and/or bad luck.
[17:44] <ninor> jdoe, oh i didn't even read anything. did you have a bad experience with some gear from there?
[17:45] <ninor> mhoran, would we even KNOW if we got bad ram?
[17:45] <ninor> i mean i wonder, how fragile is our data? speaking generally
[17:45] <ninor> there's bit rot on disk/disc, and in ram if shit goes sideways, how does that manifest?
[17:45] <jpalmer> depends on the level of "bad"  but you'd see data corruption,  odd behaviors, lockups, and possibly even "random" reboots.
[17:46] <jdoe> you very probably wouldn't see any of that since it's all ECC ram...
[17:46] <ninor> i wonder if there's any way to put safety checks in operational data in the way zfs does for persisted data
[17:47] <ninor> yea but i mean, if you were to put checking for 'this' into software, what would that look like?
[17:47] <jdoe> unless a stick dies, the only person who's likely to know is up_the_irons, and only because he's going to get log spam.
[17:47] <jpalmer> jdoe: *if* it's ECC ram,   correct.  but not all ram is ECC ram :P
[17:47] <jdoe> no, but basically everything in a server you spent more than $20 on is.
[17:47] <ninor> im not even talking about arp
[17:47] <ninor> i'm speaking generally, in computing
[17:47] <jpalmer> oh oh,  in the context of ARP, and our vps's?  No..  we'd never probably know.
[17:48] <ninor> k i must be doing something wrong here.
[17:48] <jdoe> right.
[17:48] <jpalmer> ninor: *generally* if it's non-ECC,  you'd likely see what I mentioned above.
[17:48] <ninor> k well sorry
[17:48] <jdoe> YOU SHOULD BE >:|
[17:48] <jdoe> haha.
[17:48] <ninor> k and what would a software layer do to manage that
[17:48] <ninor> and overlay it to build in resilience
[17:48] <jdoe> nothing.
[17:48] <jdoe> because you can't trust the software layer.
[17:48] <ninor> *sigh*
[17:48] <jdoe> since it's running out of ram :P
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[17:49] <jpalmer> software would have a hard time dealing with faulty RAM in any sane way.
[17:49] <jdoe> lol
[17:49] <jdoe> wasn't expecting that.
[17:49] * jpalmer gets the impression that ninor was a little uptight..
[17:50] <jdoe> seems so.
[17:50] <jpalmer> ahh well.   /me goes back to editing the maps at waze.com
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