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kthelen: Any ARP support folks here?
RandalSchwartz: anything we can help with?
if not, then email support@
best way
kthelen: Have a VPS that is unresponsive, and I'm locked out of the portal
Tried emailing support, no response yet
RandalSchwartz: yeah, support is typically 24-hour turnaround
locked out of portal how?
kthelen: Can't remember password, can't reset because email address associated with account is hosted on said VPS
RandalSchwartz: that would be a two mistakes. :(
perhaps you'll remember to fix both of those next time.
kthelen: Yeah, I know. Been forever since I've had to use the portal.
RandalSchwartz: in the meanwhile, likely you'll have to wait a bit
kthelen: Okay, thought I'd check
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RandalSchwartz: Hmm. now that you mention it, I bet my portal email points at the VPS host
I should change it to my gmail addr
I keep the password in 1Password though
so I wouldn't be locked out by that
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up_the_irons: RandalSchwartz: you can define an "alternate" email address in the Portal as well
RandalSchwartz: ahh... that's probably what I'll do then
wxyz: up_the_irons, for memory upgrade we need to reboot the vps right?
up_the_irons: wxyz: yup
wxyz: ok, i'll wait don't want to lost my beautiful uptime :p
up_the_irons: wxyz: what are you up to?
RandalSchwartz: long uptimes are like big swinging d**k contests. :)
a sign of immaturity at best.
I reboot often.
vcs: 3:45PM up 212 days, 5:58, 1 user, load averages: 0.27, 0.23, 0.18
wxyz: I think soon update 512 to 1024, Actually I need to restart bind/apache and mysql each week
vcs: check out my epeen
:)
RandalSchwartz: the real WTF there is mysql
wxyz: 13:45:33 up 317 days, 12:11, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
RandalSchwartz: why would anyone run mysql these days?
vcs: :(
im small
RandalSchwartz: at least replace it with mariadb
up_the_irons: $ uptime
12:13:04 up 785 days, 22:11, 2 users, load average: 2.86, 2.76, 2.74
vcs: RandalSchwartz: package integration
wow garry
up_the_irons: :D
vcs: way to make us all look bad
wxyz: nice one up_the_irons :P
vcs: :P
up_the_irons: LOL
RandalSchwartz: package integration?
-: up_the_irons googles mariadb
vcs: RandalSchwartz: don't most distros include mysql but not mariadb
you have to download it etc
build from source
RandalSchwartz: up_the_irons - it's monty's followon to mysql
vcs: alot of people dont like that hassle
and the maintanence that comes with it
RandalSchwartz: vcs - debian distros yes
vcs: ah
RandalSchwartz: but they are trying to work that out
the problem is that maria installs like it's mysql
so both of them share the same paths
and debian can't do that
but fedora is just fine with it
and there's a freebsd port already
totally integrated
vcs: nice
up_the_irons: nice
RandalSchwartz: it's also faster than mysql
and has features for per-row columns
essentially giving you NoSQL flexibility
and it's 99.99% compatible with mysql
I interviewed monty two days ago for FLOSS Weekly
so my new mantra is "just say no to mysql... replace with mariadb please"
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RandalSchwartz: ... http://twit.tv/show/floss-weekly/194
... http://mariadb.org/
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RandalSchwartz: you can also get RPMS there... even though Debian upstream won't host them
so it's just a matter of adding a repo
vcs: Dont run debian servers of any kind
up_the_irons: unless u want the uptime I posted above
(Ubuntu 9.04) ;)
vcs: :P
thats pretty ace tbh
up_the_irons: LOL
vcs: no sort of leaks or anything
thats the true test of code
to run that long
up_the_irons: that's kvr02 BTW, so you guys who are on that box, enjoy that uptime
RandalSchwartz: ... http://kb.askmonty.org/en/spamexperts-migrating-300-servers-to-mariadb
up_the_irons: yeah and it is a true test b/c it is a real production system running VMs all day long, not an idle machine doing nothing
RandalSchwartz: ... http://kb.askmonty.org/en/mariadb-versus-mysql-features
heh... one of the incompatibilities: Timings may be different as MariaDB is in many cases faster than MySQL.
vcs: lol
ill have to try it out
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pyro-: what format does the "New DNS Record" thing expect for "IP / Name:"? It does tell me "Name has bad format, Name is not within your IP range"
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up_the_irons: pyro-: it's simply the last number of the IP address (the rest is already filled in)
pyro-: for IPv6, you have to add all the IPv6 zeros (and there is a checkbox that does it automatically for you)
pyro-: thank you up_the_irons
up_the_irons: np
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ifthen: Did /usr/ports/x11/xorg last night on my FreeBSD shell here last night. Took a few hours, froze once, but I have the xclock running. Thanks to ARP networks.
That is make install clean.
RandalSchwartz: hope you did that inside a tmux. :)
ifthen: no what is that?
ignorance is bliss
RandalSchwartz: tmux is like screen, but better
great if you would like to go away and come back
ifthen: ok I run screen but will check it out.
RandalSchwartz: yeah, I used screen for years, started tmux six months ago, and won't go back
ifthen: is it a unix thing?
RandalSchwartz: uh - you just said you're on freebsd
I presume that's unix :)
ifthen: yes
RandalSchwartz: cd /usr/ports/*/tmux; make install
ifthen: but I didn't know which end of the server/client thing
RandalSchwartz: same place screen is
it's a direct better replacement for screen
ifthen: Randal why do you prefer it?
RandalSchwartz: it's better
... http://www.wikivs.com/wiki/Screen_vs_tmux
ifthen: FWj
Well screen is hard to configure.
ok will check out wiki.
RandalSchwartz: tmux has far more config options, but most of the defaults are sane.
my .tmux.rc is still only about 10 lines
the first three things I install on every new freebsd box: portmaster, tmux, and zsh
and then I launch my tmux session for *everything else*
ifthen: thanks for tips
mike-burns: I couldn't figure out ctrl-a ctrl-a in tmux.
Or maybe it was ctrl-a space.
RandalSchwartz: I use ^ as my escape
mike-burns: Sure.
ifthen: contrl -a gets me out of screen kill all windows
RandalSchwartz: ^ d for me is detach
I exit by going to each window and exiting that specifically
then it auto exits
or I just close my window at this end, and it auto-detaches
tmux supports external scripting
all the internal commands can be run with "tmux command..." in a shell
so you can get pretty crazy
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ifthen: I actually enjoyed watching the screen text roll by last night.
So much of it
so many little hitches that don't seem to matter.
I noticed a lot of visits to tld .hk
x.org didn't field many requests.
bbl
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