#arpnetworks 2011-12-07,Wed

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cshobeI see in my dmesg:
[ 0.272810] Booting paravirtualized kernel on KVM
I thought it should think it was on real hardware?
(that's with stock debian 5 install)
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jpalmerwhy would it think it was on real hardware? [17:07]
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cshobejpalmer: because that's what up_the_irons said.
20:33 < cshobe> "This changes the kernel so it can modify itself when it is run under a hypervisor, potentially improving performance significantly over full virtualization."
20:33 < cshobe> I reckon I'll be enabling that then
20:33 < cshobe> I thought so
20:35 <@up_the_irons> jpalmer: LOL, I like your assessment
20:47 <@up_the_irons> cshobe: but we don't use a hypervisor so don't enable that ;)
20:48 <@up_the_irons> cshobe: full virtualization with hardware support (Intel VT) is superior to paravirt w/ hypervisor
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up_the_ironsjpalmer: since KVM/QEMU isn't a hypervisor, the "hardware" on which the OS runs should look identical to real hardware, albeit for text strings that describe cpu type, for example [17:26]
cshobeI see a whole slew of virtio* modules loaded on the default debian install too [17:28]
up_the_ironsyeah, cuz the hardware is presented with "virtio" architecture, so those drivers get loaded
that only exists for linux VMs, for now, the FreeBSD / OpenBSD ones get "regular" emulated architecture
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cshobeup_the_irons: so I'm building custom linux kernels, what is the best way to go?
to use all the virtio stuff or no?
I'd think it's maybe got some performance win or lower overhead on your servers with virtio?
(this is a random guess in the dark)
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kbeeziebtw is the discussion board (couldn't find a 'ticket' system) the appropiate place to discuss a cancelation? [17:31]
up_the_ironscshobe: go with the virtio drivers when you can, they are faster
kbeezie: either click "Help Desk" in the Portal or email support@arpnetworks.com (same thing)
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kbeezieahh ok thanks. [17:32]
up_the_ironsnp [17:33]
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mattx86up_the_irons: just don't drop another pin; I don't think my ears can take it!
;))
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up_the_ironsi haven't done so in a couple days, you're safe [18:35]
mattx86ah, good [18:35]
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cshobeup_the_irons: one of my VM's is lacking a cpu core [18:49]
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cpetup_the_irons: If you are around I created a ticket regarding payment can you look into it asap so I stop being concerned the VPS will be shut down :) [18:58]
up_the_ironscpet: don't be concerned, we won't shut anything down
cshobe: email support@ and i'll take a look tonight
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cpetI created the support request in the mebers panel ? if you wish I will send an email to support@
i figured nick complete so I assumed that was direted to me ?
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jpalmercpet: if you created a ticket in the portal, there is no need to email support@
it wasn't a nick complete error ;) up_the_irons was responding to a question cshobe asked before you entered the channel
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up_the_ironsindeed [19:08]
cpetThought it was a nick completion error ;/ my mistake [19:08]
jpalmerno worries ;) [19:08]
up_the_ironsindeed, no worries [19:17]
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cpetCan I ask questions here regarding services or would it be better to open tickets ?
Hrm looking at the previous tickets regarding something I now understand why I did not receive a email regarding payment. I would of thought I would get 1 VPS free and not both
That is just awesome :)
er free month*
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Do you offer any type of web panel or is this on me? Meaning I have to purchase it seperately etc.. ?
I ask as a client is currently using another company I would like to switch and drag him here but due to the nature of this client he would need a web panel.
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toddfcpet: define 'web panel'
portal.arpnetworks.com is the standard way to get info about your vps and make some limited changes, using ssh you can tunnel vnc securely and accss serial console securely for a very useful unique feature to arp vs the 'other' vps hosts out there
if you mean 'web panel to do admin style functions on the vps' like add users or install software or configure web servers etc .. then since you have root you can install whatever you wish to install, since its your own private sandbox
if you are already a client of arp, consider if you want your client on the same vlan or not, probably best not, and in that event set them up with a separate portal.arpnetworks.com account etc
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cpetcpanel, webmin etc.. [20:01]
toddfthat is on you to install, you are peermitted of course
I haven't seen it by default since most people here don't use that type of thing (rough guestimate based on personal expectations, no real data)
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cpettoddf: I myself hate them but when it comes to clients you are required to have a nice perdy web panel for them ;/ [20:17]
toddfnot always, I have several clients that do not use such things and du manual admin via cli, still require my assistance to upgrade, reinstall, or generally do invasive administrative tasks though [20:24]
cpetWell sure but these guys are rather useless and instead of me adding email by hand it's easier to just have them do it [20:26]
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toddfof course, your choice on what you do with the vps (or theirs, etc) [20:51]
cpetWell imagine a client with no *nix experieince and no web panel adding email accouts :) [20:53]
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milkithats what big red buttons are for [20:55]
cpetsure if the client is not a curious one [20:55]
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