***: DDevine has joined #arpnetworks DDevine: kbeezie: You get thousands of IPs for free with IPv6. kbeezie: :P true true
but sometimes you jsut need another IPv4 since not everyone has an IPv6 tunnel
(SSL certs and what not for browsers that don't have SNI compatibility) DDevine: I can't move ISP, because this is the only ISP in Australia that has dual stack.
So I'm getting raped price-wise by this ISP. I don't want a tunnel. kbeezie: lol DDevine: Though with money the way it is, I may have to... kbeezie: I don't know any ISP here in michgian (US) that has dual stack other than for businesses
but least at home I use the free IPv6 tunnel with he.net
was eyeing arpnetwork due to KVM and cuz I want to run freebsd, I just signed up for bitcable's 256MB (8/month) kvm plan just to see how they are before I consider just using arpnetworks
I'd run it myself, but can't do freebsd on openvz DDevine: I'm just running Linux on mine. G: DDevine: have internode turned super expensive? kbeezie: DDevine: well if I wanted to run linux I'd just use my own VPS hosting I do :D DDevine: G: yes. They raised prices and slashed download limits.
At least on Naked.
kbeezie: I needed full virtualisation, that's why I moved off OpenVZ.
Though I don't need that anymore, I stay here because it is so hassle free. G: DDevine: ha, just looked at the pricing, Naked is more expensive than ADSL+Phone DDevine: No it isn't. It's almost the same price though. G: 200GB $79.95 Naked, $79.90 Bundled, sure it's 5cents, but every cent counts :P ***: Devine has joined #arpnetworks
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acutlly, those crafty buggers have updated the plans without emailing me. G: Devine: they put your price up without telling you? Devine: yes and no. ***: teneightypea has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out)
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Devine: btw what were you needing full virtualization for in the past? ***: Devine has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
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you having network problems devine ? ***: ziyourenxiang has quit IRC (Quit: ziyourenxiang)
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vapor has joined #arpnetworks kbeezie: whats' a typical turn around time after ordering (course taking into consideration it is sunday) Guest98663: kbeezie: usually one business day ***: Guest98663 has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)
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cshobe has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) kbeezie: :P I'd thank the guest for their answer if they didn't scurry away :D
:P nice, got an email saying it'll be ready in 5 mins :D jpalmer: kbeezie: that guest was me. ;)
irc client wigged out and I didn't notice it when I answered you kbeezie: well least arp understand security
the first host I had that doesnt allow root ssh login by default jpalmer: that's probably more a difference between linux and BSD. most linux distros allow root ssh by default. most BSD's don't kbeezie: true
last time I used FreeBSD was when I had a dedicated server (and I missed FreeBSD when I had to cancel that)
yesterday I signed up for Bitcable , course they didn't have freebsd iso so had to get it, no templates, you install yourself, etc
got their 8/month 256MB one to try out, but course it was 10mbit uplink as well (they don't tell you on the site, just that their 'nodes' have 1 gbit)
so figured, might as well try arp, so far they seem to be the better deal
but it's nice to find a VPS host aside from rootBSD that actually understands BSD setups jpalmer: I think arp caters to BSD. though, linux is an option ;) kbeezie: my fustration started when I signed up with turnkey cuz they advertized FreeBSD 8.2 with the 75% off for life sale, only to find out their version of Xen-HVM is not compatible and that they never had anyone ask for FreeBSD before -: jpalmer is a 20 year BSD admin. 2 years ago, I took a job with a linux-centric shop (ubuntu at the time, now RHEL) and don't have any BSD machines left that I directly maintain. kbeezie: all my customers are linux :/
I provide openvz VPSes, (hence you can see the reason for no BSD)
noticed they had 8.1 at arp, but I get a message that 8.2-Release is gona be end of life in 2 months :P
time to be updatin :D jpalmer: you can ask ARP to mount any ISO image you want.. or you can freebsd-update / build world kbeezie: well right now I'm attempting to do a -r upgrade to 8.2-Release
mainly letting it replace everything except for the hosts settings arp installed
debating 9.0-RC3 though
since it wont be long before they release. release :D
but yea got that email, logged in, setup passwords, created a new user, deleted the other one, yada yada :D
and it's fast... jpalmer: for a VPS, ARP seems to have some of the best disk IO I've seen. kbeezie: they're using raid-10 arent they? jpalmer: I'd suspect. but don't know for sure. kbeezie: :P guess the only thing better would be SSD and Raid10 :D jpalmer: meh. SSD.. nowhere near as reliable as magentic disks yet. I'll take the reliability over the speed any day ;)
besides, if they used SSD.. your prices would skyrocket :P kbeezie: odd didn't consider SSD being less reliable (ie: solid state vs moveing/degratting platters)
unless course certain SSDs can fail after so many 'flips'
I wonder how many 'cores' I can utilize
I know the boxes are said to be dual-quad
ahh single core
"hw.ncpu: 1" , QUEMU virtual
"You may order additional CPU cores for $2.00 USD"
seems like 2 would normally be a good starter... -: jpalmer hasn't been unhappy with 1. so, seems to me that.. it's a decent start. jpalmer: keep in mind, just because the vps only see's one, doesn't mean the underlying hypervisor can't allocate more as needed. kbeezie: we shall see :D just doing updates and portsnap fetching at the moment
though normally nginx will take advatange of mroe than 1 core if it's present (ie: if I use 2 workers on 2 cores)
jpalmer: ... I thought KVM dind't use a "hypervisor" jpalmer: s/hypervisor/platform/ I'm a vmware guy, myself. ***: gcw|mbpro has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)
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slower than the cheapie 2-core 256mb one over at bitcable ***: kbeezie has left "Linkinus - http://linkinus.com" DDevine: I've noticed that some things are ususually slow for reasons I can't figure out. pip/virtualenv is sluggish. ***: DDevine has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)
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