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[07:23] <ziyourenxiang> hi all. i see that ubuntu 10.04 is one of the available OSes. when you install, do you get the X-less server, or the full works, or does the default installation ISO give you the choice?
[07:23] <ziyourenxiang> (currently running freebsd, may need to switch to linux, as much as i prefer to stick with what i have.)
[07:27] <jlgaddis> ziyourenxiang: i would think that there's no gui installed based on what i know about the others, but that's just a guess
[07:29] <ziyourenxiang> ok thanks. you run freebsd or something else?
[07:29] * ziyourenxiang still figuring out ubuntu in server mode, setting up LXC corresponding to freebsd jails, etc. 
[07:31] <jlgaddis> freebsd and debian
[07:32] <ziyourenxiang> debian 5?
[07:45] <jlgaddis> 6
[07:47] <ziyourenxiang> i'll give that a whirl too. just don't want to get my box rooted the weekend i switch. :-)
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[11:42] <RandalSchwartz> up_the_irons, around?
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[20:01] <arenlor> why do people think it's so easy to root a box?
[20:02] <b1k3ryd3r> ignorance I suppose
[20:02] <RandalSchwartz> they've only dealt with windows? :)
[20:04] <arenlor> Both good answers, but I think that using only windows would leave you ignorant.
[20:04] <arenlor> RandalSchwartz: Any chance of livestream tonight?
[20:05] <RandalSchwartz> Might be
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