ifthen - classic ssh put the files under /etc. It's only relatively modern ssh that moved that to /etc/ssh. ah no conspiracy theory... just remember that OSX is nextstep which is *ancient* hehe thanks for that Randall be sure ifthen sees that ifthen is not here atm he's in channel so maybe he'll see the backscroll he left the channel oh weird my autocomplete is still completing him :) what client do you use, RandalSchwartz ? lol irc.el hrm whats that one thats new to me irc inside GNU Emacs I figured you for an epic5 guy maybe ahhh yes what is epic5? its a continuation of the old ircII code ahh, no. I prefer tight integration with my mail reader and newsreader so I can cut-n-paste easily nice one I read mail and news with GNUS and create subshell windows instead of opening new sessions so I basically live inside emacs Terminal.app -> ssh -> tmux -> emacs -> [sessions] :) and do you browse the web with lynx hehe I used to use w3-mode in emacs, yes bad ass agh random freezes, breaking my balls frozen balls! b1k*, Randall, I read you. b1k, Have you set up the solid connection I am now enjoying yet? Well let me know when you see this. Randal I still think it is strange that apple made it easy to talk inside the garden but by omission of a file made it harder to talk outside the wall. ommssion of a file? Hey Randal, which file? Yes config in the user nobody has a config by default that's not particular to apple hmm even in FreeBSD? ssh_config? you mean ~/.ssh/config, right that's the per-user config for ssh yes there's no ~/.ssh by default for anyone freebsd or Apple yes well apple didn't have one in the distro eh... wtf are you talking about neither does freebsd IT'S THE SAME FOR BOTH there aren't any .ssh files in unix, until you add them that's the way it is I'll have to read the man again for that or are you talking about the things in /etc well /etc in OSX, and /etc/ssh in freebsd The whole stock setup they're actually pretty close then did you see my comment earlier OSX = /etc/ssh_config FreeBSD = /etc/ssh/ssh_config yes because originally, it was in /etc now it's in the subdir I have /etc/ssh_config and /etc/sshd_config on OSX just fine and the equivalents on /etc/ssh/* on FreeBSD just fine so I'm not sure what you're pointing at yes but nothing in ~/user RIGHT nothing EVER there that's for the USER to add maybe it got there through kekygen yeah - ssh-keygen *creates* .ssh, etc but still doesn't add anything to .ssh/config that's for you ok i get it ifthen: yes, great tip works a charm :) you're welcome rider! hope u don't miss your obsession! not at all! lol nothing yet but i have a website and i hope to [slowly] see everything through it. Can you see ie google? ie google? could you see google in an xterm? I don't use xterm but yes I have a terminal app and a cli web browser installed lynx or visual? lynx ok i used to use it. And I still have IRCII but forgot most of the commands. Randal has a great setup for sure. so much to learn bbl jpalmer: was meaning to talk to you about that. a customer recently install cent 6 and he didn't have any problems. we should compare configs up_the_irons: I'm planning on reinstalling tonight. I'll be happy to share. are you running the same version of KVM across all hosts? yup ok. Are you going to be around in a couple hours? like.. 3-4? err, 3-4 hours.. not 3:00-4:00 probably not, pm / email me the uuid of the vps in question, and i'll compare configs tonight ok. also worth noting. yum works fine for smallish tasks. (installing irssi, screen, etc. but if I 'yum update' after a fesh install.. all of the OS packages.. I get a core dump ah ok i wonder if i just lost my routes or my vps 2 vps would be odd, it must be networky. could be my office, but the google still works. oh and there it goes maybe someone at level 3 tripped on the fiber meh. nope. it's gone again i should use traceroute or something to see if it's near the arp end or just somewhere in the middle pccwbtn.net is shitty a brick on its routes it looks like ugliest traceroutes running in circles n e lag spike? pccwbtn.net broke their routes which looks like lag spikes when suddenly traffic stalls for a minute then they get some packets acrsos before stalling it out again n e lag spike? broken record much? i keep getting disconencted, wasnt sure if my msg went through or not okay (14:49:58) john: pccwbtn.net broke their routes (14:50:18) john: which looks like lag spikes (14:50:23) john: when suddenly traffic stalls for a minute very likely you hit the same thing i did hi spits :] hello http://interwebfun.org/pccwbtn-fail.png there's some example of routing fail nice, and now the route goes from att.net to arp without pccwbtn's routefail along the way i'm guessing trit.net may be alternate backgone, or maybe at&t just found a better route to trit.net without going though pcc it's all about the BGPs :) and spanning algorithms IP is so hitek hey anyone here have experience with adding ipv6 dns records in the arp control panel? I am tryng to add a PTR record for 2607:f2f8:abd8::10 but not matter what I try I can't get it to work I type in 10 and add the trailing zeros and it just gives me an error continually tried lots of things at this point, don't really know what else to do i ended up running my own named to setup my ipv6 PTRs hola just checking network status i saw a backbone have routing issues earlier ahh ok seems my friends stayed connected to my vps' xmpp service, but i lost my xmpp connection and my ssh all froze up for minutes (14:55:39) john: http://interwebfun.org/pccwbtn-fail.png there's some example of routing fail that's what i managed to capture of it k just seeing whats up, the box rarely ever goes down w00t got it b1k3ryd3r: reverse DNS records are actually entered in reverse also. So it would be like 0.1.0.0.0.0.0....... etc... b1k3ryd3r: but i see you already figured this out already :) yeh I was not putting a . between the 0 and 1 thanks man np I figured it it was 10 I put ... 10 hehe trial end error i my preferred learning method is* lol brute force is mine spoonfeeding, hello!