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[06:47] <RandalSchwartz> ifthen - classic ssh put the files under /etc.  It's only relatively modern ssh that moved that to /etc/ssh.
[06:48] <b1k3ryd3r> ah
[06:48] <RandalSchwartz> no conspiracy theory... just remember that OSX is nextstep which is *ancient*
[06:48] <b1k3ryd3r> hehe
[06:48] <b1k3ryd3r> thanks for that Randall
[06:48] <RandalSchwartz> be sure ifthen sees that
[06:48] <b1k3ryd3r> ifthen is not here atm
[06:48] <RandalSchwartz> he's in channel
[06:48] <RandalSchwartz> so maybe he'll see the backscroll
[06:48] <b1k3ryd3r> he left the channel
[06:49] <RandalSchwartz> oh weird
[06:49] <RandalSchwartz> my autocomplete is still completing him :)
[06:49] <b1k3ryd3r> what client do you use, RandalSchwartz ?
[06:49] <b1k3ryd3r> lol
[06:49] <RandalSchwartz> irc.el
[06:49] <b1k3ryd3r> hrm whats that one
[06:49] <b1k3ryd3r> thats new to me
[06:49] <RandalSchwartz> irc inside GNU Emacs
[06:49] <b1k3ryd3r> I figured you for an epic5 guy maybe
[06:49] <b1k3ryd3r> ahhh yes
[06:49] <RandalSchwartz> what is epic5?
[06:50] <b1k3ryd3r> its a continuation of the old ircII code
[06:50] <RandalSchwartz> ahh, no.  I prefer tight integration with my mail reader and newsreader
[06:51] <RandalSchwartz> so I can cut-n-paste easily
[06:51] <b1k3ryd3r> nice one
[06:51] <RandalSchwartz> I read mail and news with GNUS
[06:52] <RandalSchwartz> and create subshell windows instead of opening new sessions
[06:52] <RandalSchwartz> so I basically live inside emacs
[06:52] <RandalSchwartz> Terminal.app -> ssh -> tmux -> emacs -> [sessions]
[06:52] <b1k3ryd3r> :)
[06:52] <b1k3ryd3r> and do you browse the web with lynx
[06:52] <b1k3ryd3r> hehe
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[06:55] <RandalSchwartz> I used to use w3-mode in emacs, yes
[06:56] <b1k3ryd3r> bad ass
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[09:56] <dabb> agh random freezes, breaking my balls
[10:02] <RandalSchwartz> frozen balls!
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[10:36] * jpalmer has to figure out why yum keeps dumping core on CentOS6 at arp.  Otherwise, I may have to go back to CentOS5,  and find another provider for C6
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[11:45] <ifthen> b1k*, Randall, I read you. b1k, Have you set up the solid connection I am now enjoying yet?
[11:51] <ifthen> Well let me know when you see this. Randal I still think it is strange that apple made it easy to talk inside the garden but by omission of a file made it harder to talk outside the wall.
[11:51] <RandalSchwartz> ommssion of a file?
[11:52] <ifthen> Hey Randal,
[11:52] <RandalSchwartz> which file?
[11:52] <ifthen> Yes config in the user
[11:52] <RandalSchwartz> nobody has a config by default
[11:52] <RandalSchwartz> that's not particular to apple
[11:53] <ifthen> hmm even in FreeBSD?
[11:53] <ifthen> ssh_config?
[11:53] <RandalSchwartz> you mean ~/.ssh/config, right
[11:53] <RandalSchwartz> that's the per-user config
[11:53] <RandalSchwartz> for ssh
[11:53] <ifthen> yes
[11:53] <RandalSchwartz> there's no ~/.ssh by default for anyone
[11:53] <RandalSchwartz> freebsd or Apple
[11:54] <ifthen> yes well apple didn't have one in the distro
[11:54] <RandalSchwartz> eh... wtf are you talking about
[11:54] <RandalSchwartz> neither does freebsd
[11:54] <RandalSchwartz> IT'S THE SAME FOR BOTH
[11:54] <RandalSchwartz> there aren't any .ssh files in unix, until you add them
[11:54] <RandalSchwartz> that's the way it is
[11:54] <ifthen> I'll have to read the man again for that
[11:55] <RandalSchwartz> or are you talking about the things in /etc
[11:55] <RandalSchwartz> well /etc in OSX, and /etc/ssh in freebsd
[11:55] <ifthen> The whole stock setup
[11:55] <RandalSchwartz> they're actually pretty close then
[11:56] <RandalSchwartz> did you see my comment earlier
[11:56] <RandalSchwartz> OSX = /etc/ssh_config
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[11:56] <RandalSchwartz> FreeBSD = /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[11:56] <ifthen> yes
[11:56] <RandalSchwartz> because originally, it was in /etc
[11:56] <RandalSchwartz> now it's in the subdir
[11:56] <RandalSchwartz> I have /etc/ssh_config and /etc/sshd_config on OSX just fine
[11:57] <RandalSchwartz> and the equivalents on /etc/ssh/* on FreeBSD just fine
[11:57] <RandalSchwartz> so I'm not sure what you're pointing at
[11:57] <ifthen> yes but nothing in ~/user
[11:57] <RandalSchwartz> RIGHT
[11:57] <RandalSchwartz> nothing EVER there
[11:57] <RandalSchwartz> that's for the USER to add
[11:58] <ifthen> maybe it got there through kekygen
[11:58] <RandalSchwartz> yeah - ssh-keygen *creates* .ssh, etc
[11:58] <RandalSchwartz> but still doesn't add anything to .ssh/config
[11:58] <RandalSchwartz> that's for you
[11:59] <ifthen> ok i get it
[11:59] * RandalSchwartz wanders off
[12:00] <b1k3ryd3r> ifthen: yes, great tip
[12:00] <b1k3ryd3r> works a charm :)
[12:01] <ifthen> you're welcome rider!
[12:01] <ifthen> hope u don't miss your obsession!
[12:02] <b1k3ryd3r> not at all!
[12:02] <b1k3ryd3r> lol
[12:03] <ifthen> nothing yet but i have a website and i hope to [slowly] see everything through it.
[12:03] <ifthen> Can you see ie google?
[12:05] <b1k3ryd3r> ie google?
[12:06] <ifthen> could you see google in an xterm?
[12:08] <b1k3ryd3r> I don't use xterm but yes I have a terminal app and a cli web browser installed
[12:08] <ifthen> lynx or visual?
[12:08] <b1k3ryd3r> lynx
[12:09] <ifthen> ok i used to use it. And I still have IRCII but forgot most of the commands.
[12:10] <ifthen> Randal has a great setup for sure.
[12:16] <ifthen> so much to learn
[12:16] <ifthen> bbl
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[12:49] <up_the_irons> jpalmer: was meaning to talk to you about that.  a customer recently install cent 6 and he didn't have any problems.  we should compare configs
[12:50] <jpalmer> up_the_irons: I'm planning on reinstalling tonight.  I'll be happy to share.
[12:50] <jpalmer> are you running the same version of KVM across all hosts?
[12:50] <up_the_irons> yup
[12:51] <jpalmer> ok.  Are you going to be around in a couple hours?
[12:51] <jpalmer> like.. 3-4?
[12:51] <jpalmer> err,  3-4 hours..  not 3:00-4:00
[12:51] <up_the_irons> probably not, pm / email me the uuid of the vps in question, and i'll compare configs tonight
[12:52] <jpalmer> ok.
[12:52] <jpalmer> also worth noting.  yum works fine for smallish tasks.  (installing irssi,  screen, etc.   but if I 'yum update' after a fesh install..  all of the OS packages..   I get a core dump
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[12:54] <up_the_irons> ah ok
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[14:29] <wallshot> i wonder if i just lost my routes or my vps
[14:29] <wallshot> 2 vps would be odd, it must be networky.   could be my office, but the google still works.
[14:29] <wallshot> oh and there it goes
[14:29] <wallshot> maybe someone at level 3 tripped on the fiber
[14:30] <wallshot> meh. nope. it's gone again
[14:30] <wallshot> i should use traceroute or something to see if it's near the arp end or just somewhere in the middle
[14:31] <wallshot> pccwbtn.net is shitty a brick on its routes it looks like
[14:32] <wallshot> ugliest traceroutes running in circles
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[14:35] <Sheath> n e lag spike?
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[14:35] <wallshot> pccwbtn.net broke their routes
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[14:36] <wallshot> which looks like lag spikes
[14:36] <wallshot> when suddenly traffic stalls for a minute
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[14:36] <wallshot> then they get some packets acrsos before stalling it out again
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[14:37] <Sheath> n e lag spike?
[14:38] <wallshot> broken record much?
[14:38] <Sheath> i keep getting disconencted, wasnt sure if my msg went through or not okay
[14:38] <wallshot> (14:49:58) john: pccwbtn.net broke their routes
[14:38] <wallshot> (14:50:18) john: which looks like lag spikes
[14:38] <wallshot> (14:50:23) john: when suddenly traffic stalls for a minute
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[14:39] <wallshot> very likely you hit the same thing i did
[14:39] <b1k3ryd3r> hi spits :]
[14:39] <spits> hello
[14:41] <wallshot> http://interwebfun.org/pccwbtn-fail.png  there's some example of routing fail
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[14:42] <wallshot> nice, and now the route goes from att.net to arp
[14:42] <wallshot> without pccwbtn's routefail along the way
[14:43] <wallshot> i'm guessing trit.net may be alternate backgone, or maybe at&t just found a better route to trit.net without going though pcc
[14:43] <RandalSchwartz> it's all about the BGPs :)
[14:43] <RandalSchwartz> and spanning algorithms
[14:45] <wallshot> IP is so hitek
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[15:11] <b1k3ryd3r> hey anyone here have experience with adding ipv6 dns records in the arp control panel? I am tryng to add a PTR record for 2607:f2f8:abd8::10 but not matter what I try I can't get it to work
[15:11] <b1k3ryd3r> I type in 10 and add the trailing zeros and it just gives me an error continually
[15:12] <b1k3ryd3r> tried lots of things at this point, don't really know what else to do
[15:12] <wallshot> i ended up running my own named to setup my ipv6 PTRs
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[15:16] <toxinn> hola
[15:16] <toxinn> just checking network status
[15:18] <wallshot> i saw a backbone have routing issues earlier
[15:18] <toxinn> ahh ok
[15:18] <wallshot> seems my friends stayed connected to my vps' xmpp service, but i lost my xmpp connection and my ssh all froze up for minutes
[15:18] <wallshot> (14:55:39) john: http://interwebfun.org/pccwbtn-fail.png  there's some example of routing fail
[15:18] <wallshot> that's what i managed to capture of it
[15:19] <toxinn> k just seeing whats up, the box rarely ever goes down
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[15:25] <b1k3ryd3r> w00t
[15:25] <b1k3ryd3r> got it
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[16:22] <up_the_irons> b1k3ryd3r: reverse DNS records are actually entered in reverse also.  So it would be like 0.1.0.0.0.0.0....... etc...
[16:22] <up_the_irons> b1k3ryd3r: but i see you already figured this out already
[16:22] <up_the_irons> :)
[16:22] <b1k3ryd3r> yeh I was not putting a . between the 0 and 1
[16:22] <b1k3ryd3r> thanks man
[16:23] <up_the_irons> np
[16:23] <b1k3ryd3r> I figured it it was 10 I put  ... 10
[16:23] <b1k3ryd3r> hehe
[16:23] <b1k3ryd3r> trial end error i my preferred learning method
[16:23] <b1k3ryd3r> is*
[16:24] <up_the_irons> lol
[16:24] <RandalSchwartz> brute force is mine
[16:33] <jpalmer> spoonfeeding, hello!
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