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| RandalSchwartz | ifthen - classic ssh put the files under /etc. It's only relatively modern ssh that moved that to /etc/ssh. | [06:47] |
| b1k3ryd3r | ah | [06:48] |
| RandalSchwartz | no conspiracy theory... just remember that OSX is nextstep which is *ancient* | [06:48] |
| b1k3ryd3r | hehe
thanks for that Randall | [06:48] |
| RandalSchwartz | be sure ifthen sees that | [06:48] |
| b1k3ryd3r | ifthen is not here atm | [06:48] |
| RandalSchwartz | he's in channel
so maybe he'll see the backscroll | [06:48] |
| b1k3ryd3r | he left the channel | [06:48] |
| RandalSchwartz | oh weird
my autocomplete is still completing him :) | [06:49] |
| b1k3ryd3r | what client do you use, RandalSchwartz ?
lol | [06:49] |
| RandalSchwartz | irc.el | [06:49] |
| b1k3ryd3r | hrm whats that one
thats new to me | [06:49] |
| RandalSchwartz | irc inside GNU Emacs | [06:49] |
| b1k3ryd3r | I figured you for an epic5 guy maybe
ahhh yes | [06:49] |
| RandalSchwartz | what is epic5? | [06:49] |
| b1k3ryd3r | its a continuation of the old ircII code | [06:50] |
| RandalSchwartz | ahh, no. I prefer tight integration with my mail reader and newsreader
so I can cut-n-paste easily | [06:50] |
| b1k3ryd3r | nice one | [06:51] |
| RandalSchwartz | I read mail and news with GNUS
and create subshell windows instead of opening new sessions so I basically live inside emacs Terminal.app -> ssh -> tmux -> emacs -> [sessions] | [06:51] |
| b1k3ryd3r | :)
and do you browse the web with lynx hehe | [06:52] |
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| RandalSchwartz | I used to use w3-mode in emacs, yes | [06:55] |
| b1k3ryd3r | bad ass | [06:56] |
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| dabb | agh random freezes, breaking my balls | [09:56] |
| RandalSchwartz | frozen balls! | [10:02] |
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| jpalmer | jpalmer has to figure out why yum keeps dumping core on CentOS6 at arp. Otherwise, I may have to go back to CentOS5, and find another provider for C6 | [10:36] |
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| ifthen | b1k*, Randall, I read you. b1k, Have you set up the solid connection I am now enjoying yet? | [11:45] |
| Well let me know when you see this. Randal I still think it is strange that apple made it easy to talk inside the garden but by omission of a file made it harder to talk outside the wall. | [11:51] | |
| RandalSchwartz | ommssion of a file? | [11:51] |
| ifthen | Hey Randal, | [11:52] |
| RandalSchwartz | which file? | [11:52] |
| ifthen | Yes config in the user | [11:52] |
| RandalSchwartz | nobody has a config by default
that's not particular to apple | [11:52] |
| ifthen | hmm even in FreeBSD?
ssh_config? | [11:53] |
| RandalSchwartz | you mean ~/.ssh/config, right
that's the per-user config for ssh | [11:53] |
| ifthen | yes | [11:53] |
| RandalSchwartz | there's no ~/.ssh by default for anyone
freebsd or Apple | [11:53] |
| ifthen | yes well apple didn't have one in the distro | [11:54] |
| RandalSchwartz | eh... wtf are you talking about
neither does freebsd IT'S THE SAME FOR BOTH there aren't any .ssh files in unix, until you add them that's the way it is | [11:54] |
| ifthen | I'll have to read the man again for that | [11:54] |
| RandalSchwartz | or are you talking about the things in /etc
well /etc in OSX, and /etc/ssh in freebsd | [11:55] |
| ifthen | The whole stock setup | [11:55] |
| RandalSchwartz | they're actually pretty close then
did you see my comment earlier OSX = /etc/ssh_config | [11:55] |
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| RandalSchwartz | FreeBSD = /etc/ssh/ssh_config | [11:56] |
| ifthen | yes | [11:56] |
| RandalSchwartz | because originally, it was in /etc
now it's in the subdir I have /etc/ssh_config and /etc/sshd_config on OSX just fine and the equivalents on /etc/ssh/* on FreeBSD just fine so I'm not sure what you're pointing at | [11:56] |
| ifthen | yes but nothing in ~/user | [11:57] |
| RandalSchwartz | RIGHT
nothing EVER there that's for the USER to add | [11:57] |
| ifthen | maybe it got there through kekygen | [11:58] |
| RandalSchwartz | yeah - ssh-keygen *creates* .ssh, etc
but still doesn't add anything to .ssh/config that's for you | [11:58] |
| ifthen | ok i get it | [11:59] |
| RandalSchwartz | RandalSchwartz wanders off | [11:59] |
| b1k3ryd3r | ifthen: yes, great tip
works a charm :) | [12:00] |
| ifthen | you're welcome rider!
hope u don't miss your obsession! | [12:01] |
| b1k3ryd3r | not at all!
lol | [12:02] |
| ifthen | nothing yet but i have a website and i hope to [slowly] see everything through it.
Can you see ie google? | [12:03] |
| b1k3ryd3r | ie google? | [12:05] |
| ifthen | could you see google in an xterm? | [12:06] |
| b1k3ryd3r | I don't use xterm but yes I have a terminal app and a cli web browser installed | [12:08] |
| ifthen | lynx or visual? | [12:08] |
| b1k3ryd3r | lynx | [12:08] |
| ifthen | ok i used to use it. And I still have IRCII but forgot most of the commands.
Randal has a great setup for sure. | [12:09] |
| so much to learn
bbl | [12:16] | |
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| up_the_irons | jpalmer: was meaning to talk to you about that. a customer recently install cent 6 and he didn't have any problems. we should compare configs | [12:49] |
| jpalmer | up_the_irons: I'm planning on reinstalling tonight. I'll be happy to share.
are you running the same version of KVM across all hosts? | [12:50] |
| up_the_irons | yup | [12:50] |
| jpalmer | ok. Are you going to be around in a couple hours?
like.. 3-4? err, 3-4 hours.. not 3:00-4:00 | [12:51] |
| up_the_irons | probably not, pm / email me the uuid of the vps in question, and i'll compare configs tonight | [12:51] |
| jpalmer | ok.
also worth noting. yum works fine for smallish tasks. (installing irssi, screen, etc. but if I 'yum update' after a fesh install.. all of the OS packages.. I get a core dump | [12:52] |
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| up_the_irons | ah ok | [12:54] |
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| wallshot | i wonder if i just lost my routes or my vps
2 vps would be odd, it must be networky. could be my office, but the google still works. oh and there it goes maybe someone at level 3 tripped on the fiber meh. nope. it's gone again i should use traceroute or something to see if it's near the arp end or just somewhere in the middle pccwbtn.net is shitty a brick on its routes it looks like ugliest traceroutes running in circles | [14:29] |
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| Sheath | n e lag spike? | [14:35] |
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| wallshot | pccwbtn.net broke their routes | [14:35] |
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| wallshot | which looks like lag spikes
when suddenly traffic stalls for a minute | [14:36] |
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| wallshot | then they get some packets acrsos before stalling it out again | [14:36] |
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| Sheath | n e lag spike? | [14:37] |
| wallshot | broken record much? | [14:38] |
| Sheath | i keep getting disconencted, wasnt sure if my msg went through or not okay | [14:38] |
| wallshot | (14:49:58) john: pccwbtn.net broke their routes
(14:50:18) john: which looks like lag spikes (14:50:23) john: when suddenly traffic stalls for a minute | [14:38] |
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| wallshot | very likely you hit the same thing i did | [14:39] |
| b1k3ryd3r | hi spits :] | [14:39] |
| spits | hello | [14:39] |
| wallshot | http://interwebfun.org/pccwbtn-fail.png there's some example of routing fail | [14:41] |
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| wallshot | nice, and now the route goes from att.net to arp
without pccwbtn's routefail along the way i'm guessing trit.net may be alternate backgone, or maybe at&t just found a better route to trit.net without going though pcc | [14:42] |
| RandalSchwartz | it's all about the BGPs :)
and spanning algorithms | [14:43] |
| wallshot | IP is so hitek | [14:45] |
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| b1k3ryd3r | hey anyone here have experience with adding ipv6 dns records in the arp control panel? I am tryng to add a PTR record for 2607:f2f8:abd8::10 but not matter what I try I can't get it to work
I type in 10 and add the trailing zeros and it just gives me an error continually tried lots of things at this point, don't really know what else to do | [15:11] |
| wallshot | i ended up running my own named to setup my ipv6 PTRs | [15:12] |
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| toxinn | hola
just checking network status | [15:16] |
| wallshot | i saw a backbone have routing issues earlier | [15:18] |
| toxinn | ahh ok | [15:18] |
| wallshot | seems my friends stayed connected to my vps' xmpp service, but i lost my xmpp connection and my ssh all froze up for minutes
(14:55:39) john: http://interwebfun.org/pccwbtn-fail.png there's some example of routing fail that's what i managed to capture of it | [15:18] |
| toxinn | k just seeing whats up, the box rarely ever goes down | [15:19] |
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| b1k3ryd3r | w00t
got it | [15:25] |
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| up_the_irons | b1k3ryd3r: reverse DNS records are actually entered in reverse also. So it would be like 0.1.0.0.0.0.0....... etc...
b1k3ryd3r: but i see you already figured this out already :) | [16:22] |
| b1k3ryd3r | yeh I was not putting a . between the 0 and 1
thanks man | [16:22] |
| up_the_irons | np | [16:23] |
| b1k3ryd3r | I figured it it was 10 I put ... 10
hehe trial end error i my preferred learning method is* | [16:23] |
| up_the_irons | lol | [16:24] |
| RandalSchwartz | brute force is mine | [16:24] |
| jpalmer | spoonfeeding, hello! | [16:33] |
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