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byk3r1d3r has quit IRC (Client Quit) -: RandalSchwartz guesses byk3r1d3r was about 14 when he picked his nick RandalSchwartz: might still be 14. :) b1k3ryd3r: :) -: ant was also about 14 when he picked his nick... b1k3ryd3r: I change my nick a lot
no biggie to me ***: jlgaddis-sjc has joined #arpnetworks jlgaddis-sjc: anybody around care to confirm that vnc'ing to their console works fine? RandalSchwartz: in general?
or recently? jlgaddis-sjc: within the last 2-3 days, i guess
upgraded kernel and rebooted a few days ago, just tried to hit the console and just get a blank screen
worked fine before upgrade/reboot, but hadn't tried it afterwards until now RandalSchwartz: odd. jlgaddis-sjc: i'm sure it's just my vps, but want to confirm... not sure what would cause it to b0rk. RandalSchwartz: I *have* noticed a need to stop/start the ssh tunnel after a reboot though
for some reason
didn't used to need that
back a year ago. :) jlgaddis-sjc: i've tried over ssh and not, same thing either way RandalSchwartz: I don't background my tunnel
ssh -vN
not -f something :) jlgaddis-sjc: well the connection gets established, the console is usually blanked, just hit enter to get the screen to appear, but that's not working now RandalSchwartz: weird jlgaddis-sjc: and i'm in san jose and can't ssh in from $home RandalSchwartz: I have no idea what that last statement means
I hope I wasn't expected to understand it jlgaddis-sjc: i have ssh filtered except from a few ip addresses
none of those boxes are within ~2500 miles of me right now =) RandalSchwartz: how would that affect your console?
your filtering is within your VM, right?
or did you set up something special with ARP? jlgaddis-sjc: it wouldn't, but i have no other way to get into the vps
iptables in the vps RandalSchwartz: right... so you should still be able to ssh-tunnel the vnc jlgaddis-sjc: right
with a b0rked console, though, i can't get in at all RandalSchwartz: have you tried a reboot?
and watch it during reboot?
the low-level stuff should at least scribble on the console
before your OS takes over
the "press F12 to select boot device" stuff jlgaddis-sjc: no, i try not to use rebooting as a troubleshooting technique =) RandalSchwartz: depends on what you need, I guess
if the box is up and running, no biggy
if it's broken, needs fixing. :)
as for sshd, I moved it from 22 to 443, and never ever see ssh probes
no need for ip range reduction ***: Tadaka has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) jlgaddis-sjc: yeah, i use alternate port numbers or two-factor security at times
all my sites are working so it's not a huge issue, just wanted to ssh in and check something RandalSchwartz: can you tunnel through home? :)
I have "back to my mac" for that, for example. ***: heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: BAMPF!) jlgaddis-sjc: i could, if the machines weren't powered down at the moment ***: jlgaddis-sjc has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)
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ifthen has joined #arpnetworks ifthen: jlgaddis FWIW I was just now able to connect to a login screen for my vps using unencrypted "Chicken" program, a derivitive of ChickenoftheVNC. I was never able to get an SSH tunnel up and running.
Good Luck. Maybe there is a daemon to turn on your Mac :) b1k3ryd3r: I advise always always tunneling vnc through ssh
-always toddf: I presume you put your ssh public key into the control panel ... b1k3ryd3r: yep toddf: and asked support@ for help wrt why it is not working? b1k3ryd3r: oh sorry I have no problem with anything ifthen: b1k is your home machine a unix flavor? b1k3ryd3r: yep, I use OSX ifthen: oh
which number?
or cat? b1k3ryd3r: 10.6.8 Snow Leopard ifthen: hm
I noticed on my 10.5.8 there was not ssh_config or sshd_config in the ssh dir. Do you have one?
or do you just use the system one? b1k3ryd3r: ifthen: on my OSX, both the sshd_config and ssh_config are located in /etc/
there is no ssh/ sub dir
oddly enough RandalSchwartz: I see /etc/sshd_config b1k3ryd3r: never noticed until now :) RandalSchwartz: on my snow leopard machine ifthen: well that's the system standard one i think b1k3ryd3r: yeh thats strange eh RandalSchwartz RandalSchwartz: yeah - that's what I'm thining b1k3ryd3r: I dunno, maybe not RandalSchwartz: installer's choice. :) b1k3ryd3r: on FreeBSD it has a ssh sub dir
yah, suppose so ifthen: well i just put one in and it didn't help or hurt
i still get timed out
Randall I checked your suggestions but no dice yet
btw i have used tcsh for many years as user only but just took the vnc csh out of the box for a try.
going to set up a user with tch
tcsh ***: ifthen has left
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ifthen has joined #arpnetworks ifthen: b1k*, Randal, myself on OSX 10.6.8; it seems to me that a vps on FreeBSD which has its ssh_config and sshd_config in an ssh directory would be confused by these file being in /etc [no ssh directory]. I am thinking of copying those files to a /user/ssh/ directory. I have already put a few variable instantiation commands in one and it hasn't wrecked anything. I just wonder how a non-apple OS can find ssh_config and sshd_config. b1k3ryd3r: in my personal opinion you are completely barking up the wrong tree, ifthen ifthen: thanks b1* I am getting desperate and willing to try anything.
I am sick of being timed out. b1k3ryd3r: I imagine so :( ifthen: Where is that fruitful tree? b1k3ryd3r: hehe
if it consoles you at all, ifthen, I time out constantly
if you could see my auth.log it would look like I have an obssession with constantly ssh'ing to my vps ifthen: Well I am spoiled by my shell provider in Hollywood who never times me out.
And now my own shell kicks me out...
my shell is FreeBSD b1k3ryd3r: same here ifthen: Something is the matter b1k3ryd3r: indeeed ifthen: I guess it means more time with google. The only solution I saw to this problem was a case where there was a bad setting in Putty that was the problem. b1k3ryd3r: do you use putty? ifthen: no I have sworn off microsoft b1k3ryd3r: ah goods
good
I thought you were using putty on OSX
lol ifthen: heh i used to use it with ms b1k3ryd3r: yah
same
then I got on my first *nix shell and was hooked
>_< ifthen: I think macbooks and a VPS would be a great combination if I could make it happen.
maybe i need a pc-bsd book b1k3ryd3r: ugh no
haha
FreeBSD make a grreat desktop ifthen: do you know about PC-BSD the new os?
you get a choice of all the unix desktops b1k3ryd3r: yah I know it
I used it many moons ago ifthen: Well it seems to me the macbook display is good enough
But I keep thinking maybe Apple doesn't want to play with FreeBSD
In which case I'm done with Apple.
I don't know if I'm paranoid or ignorant right now. b1k3ryd3r: about? ifthen: About apple and bsd b1k3ryd3r: ah ifthen: nice chatting b1*
gotta go now b1k3ryd3r: see ya ifthen ***: ifthen has left
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ifthen has joined #arpnetworks ifthen: b1k* I have had an SSH connection to my VPS open for about an hour. http://tinyurl.com/3d6itpu I included Randal's TCP keep alive suggestion. ***: ifthen has left meingtsla: Success ***: _id has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
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