might still be 14. :) :) I change my nick a lot no biggie to me anybody around care to confirm that vnc'ing to their console works fine? in general? or recently? within the last 2-3 days, i guess upgraded kernel and rebooted a few days ago, just tried to hit the console and just get a blank screen worked fine before upgrade/reboot, but hadn't tried it afterwards until now odd. i'm sure it's just my vps, but want to confirm... not sure what would cause it to b0rk. I *have* noticed a need to stop/start the ssh tunnel after a reboot though for some reason didn't used to need that back a year ago. :) i've tried over ssh and not, same thing either way I don't background my tunnel ssh -vN not -f something :) well the connection gets established, the console is usually blanked, just hit enter to get the screen to appear, but that's not working now weird and i'm in san jose and can't ssh in from $home I have no idea what that last statement means I hope I wasn't expected to understand it i have ssh filtered except from a few ip addresses none of those boxes are within ~2500 miles of me right now =) how would that affect your console? your filtering is within your VM, right? or did you set up something special with ARP? it wouldn't, but i have no other way to get into the vps iptables in the vps right... so you should still be able to ssh-tunnel the vnc right with a b0rked console, though, i can't get in at all have you tried a reboot? and watch it during reboot? the low-level stuff should at least scribble on the console before your OS takes over the "press F12 to select boot device" stuff no, i try not to use rebooting as a troubleshooting technique =) depends on what you need, I guess if the box is up and running, no biggy if it's broken, needs fixing. :) as for sshd, I moved it from 22 to 443, and never ever see ssh probes no need for ip range reduction yeah, i use alternate port numbers or two-factor security at times all my sites are working so it's not a huge issue, just wanted to ssh in and check something can you tunnel through home? :) I have "back to my mac" for that, for example. i could, if the machines weren't powered down at the moment jlgaddis FWIW I was just now able to connect to a login screen for my vps using unencrypted "Chicken" program, a derivitive of ChickenoftheVNC. I was never able to get an SSH tunnel up and running. Good Luck. Maybe there is a daemon to turn on your Mac :) I advise always always tunneling vnc through ssh -always I presume you put your ssh public key into the control panel ... yep and asked support@ for help wrt why it is not working? oh sorry I have no problem with anything b1k is your home machine a unix flavor? yep, I use OSX oh which number? or cat? 10.6.8 Snow Leopard hm I noticed on my 10.5.8 there was not ssh_config or sshd_config in the ssh dir. Do you have one? or do you just use the system one? ifthen: on my OSX, both the sshd_config and ssh_config are located in /etc/ there is no ssh/ sub dir oddly enough I see /etc/sshd_config never noticed until now :) on my snow leopard machine well that's the system standard one i think yeh thats strange eh RandalSchwartz yeah - that's what I'm thining I dunno, maybe not installer's choice. :) on FreeBSD it has a ssh sub dir yah, suppose so well i just put one in and it didn't help or hurt i still get timed out Randall I checked your suggestions but no dice yet btw i have used tcsh for many years as user only but just took the vnc csh out of the box for a try. going to set up a user with tch tcsh b1k*, Randal, myself on OSX 10.6.8; it seems to me that a vps on FreeBSD which has its ssh_config and sshd_config in an ssh directory would be confused by these file being in /etc [no ssh directory]. I am thinking of copying those files to a /user/ssh/ directory. I have already put a few variable instantiation commands in one and it hasn't wrecked anything. I just wonder how a non-apple OS can find ssh_config and sshd_config. in my personal opinion you are completely barking up the wrong tree, ifthen thanks b1* I am getting desperate and willing to try anything. I am sick of being timed out. I imagine so :( Where is that fruitful tree? hehe if it consoles you at all, ifthen, I time out constantly if you could see my auth.log it would look like I have an obssession with constantly ssh'ing to my vps Well I am spoiled by my shell provider in Hollywood who never times me out. And now my own shell kicks me out... my shell is FreeBSD same here Something is the matter indeeed I guess it means more time with google. The only solution I saw to this problem was a case where there was a bad setting in Putty that was the problem. do you use putty? no I have sworn off microsoft ah goods good I thought you were using putty on OSX lol heh i used to use it with ms yah same then I got on my first *nix shell and was hooked >_< I think macbooks and a VPS would be a great combination if I could make it happen. maybe i need a pc-bsd book ugh no haha FreeBSD make a grreat desktop do you know about PC-BSD the new os? you get a choice of all the unix desktops yah I know it I used it many moons ago Well it seems to me the macbook display is good enough But I keep thinking maybe Apple doesn't want to play with FreeBSD In which case I'm done with Apple. I don't know if I'm paranoid or ignorant right now. about? About apple and bsd ah nice chatting b1* gotta go now see ya ifthen b1k* I have had an SSH connection to my VPS open for about an hour. http://tinyurl.com/3d6itpu I included Randal's TCP keep alive suggestion. Success