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| RandalSchwartz | RandalSchwartz guesses byk3r1d3r was about 14 when he picked his nick
might still be 14. :) | [11:12] |
| b1k3ryd3r | :) | [11:14] |
| ant | ant was also about 14 when he picked his nick... | [11:14] |
| b1k3ryd3r | I change my nick a lot
no biggie to me | [11:15] |
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| jlgaddis-sjc | anybody around care to confirm that vnc'ing to their console works fine? | [11:16] |
| RandalSchwartz | in general?
or recently? | [11:16] |
| jlgaddis-sjc | within the last 2-3 days, i guess
upgraded kernel and rebooted a few days ago, just tried to hit the console and just get a blank screen worked fine before upgrade/reboot, but hadn't tried it afterwards until now | [11:16] |
| RandalSchwartz | odd. | [11:17] |
| jlgaddis-sjc | i'm sure it's just my vps, but want to confirm... not sure what would cause it to b0rk. | [11:17] |
| RandalSchwartz | I *have* noticed a need to stop/start the ssh tunnel after a reboot though
for some reason didn't used to need that back a year ago. :) | [11:17] |
| jlgaddis-sjc | i've tried over ssh and not, same thing either way | [11:18] |
| RandalSchwartz | I don't background my tunnel
ssh -vN not -f something :) | [11:18] |
| jlgaddis-sjc | well the connection gets established, the console is usually blanked, just hit enter to get the screen to appear, but that's not working now | [11:19] |
| RandalSchwartz | weird | [11:19] |
| jlgaddis-sjc | and i'm in san jose and can't ssh in from $home | [11:19] |
| RandalSchwartz | I have no idea what that last statement means
I hope I wasn't expected to understand it | [11:20] |
| jlgaddis-sjc | i have ssh filtered except from a few ip addresses
none of those boxes are within ~2500 miles of me right now =) | [11:20] |
| RandalSchwartz | how would that affect your console?
your filtering is within your VM, right? or did you set up something special with ARP? | [11:21] |
| jlgaddis-sjc | it wouldn't, but i have no other way to get into the vps
iptables in the vps | [11:21] |
| RandalSchwartz | right... so you should still be able to ssh-tunnel the vnc | [11:21] |
| jlgaddis-sjc | right
with a b0rked console, though, i can't get in at all | [11:22] |
| RandalSchwartz | have you tried a reboot?
and watch it during reboot? the low-level stuff should at least scribble on the console before your OS takes over the "press F12 to select boot device" stuff | [11:22] |
| jlgaddis-sjc | no, i try not to use rebooting as a troubleshooting technique =) | [11:27] |
| RandalSchwartz | depends on what you need, I guess
if the box is up and running, no biggy if it's broken, needs fixing. :) as for sshd, I moved it from 22 to 443, and never ever see ssh probes no need for ip range reduction | [11:30] |
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| jlgaddis-sjc | yeah, i use alternate port numbers or two-factor security at times
all my sites are working so it's not a huge issue, just wanted to ssh in and check something | [11:36] |
| RandalSchwartz | can you tunnel through home? :)
I have "back to my mac" for that, for example. | [11:43] |
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| jlgaddis-sjc | i could, if the machines weren't powered down at the moment | [11:58] |
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| ifthen | jlgaddis FWIW I was just now able to connect to a login screen for my vps using unencrypted "Chicken" program, a derivitive of ChickenoftheVNC. I was never able to get an SSH tunnel up and running.
Good Luck. Maybe there is a daemon to turn on your Mac :) | [14:33] |
| b1k3ryd3r | I advise always always tunneling vnc through ssh
-always | [14:35] |
| toddf | I presume you put your ssh public key into the control panel ... | [14:35] |
| b1k3ryd3r | yep | [14:36] |
| toddf | and asked support@ for help wrt why it is not working? | [14:36] |
| b1k3ryd3r | oh sorry I have no problem with anything | [14:36] |
| ifthen | b1k is your home machine a unix flavor? | [14:37] |
| b1k3ryd3r | yep, I use OSX | [14:37] |
| ifthen | oh
which number? or cat? | [14:38] |
| b1k3ryd3r | 10.6.8 Snow Leopard | [14:38] |
| ifthen | hm
I noticed on my 10.5.8 there was not ssh_config or sshd_config in the ssh dir. Do you have one? or do you just use the system one? | [14:39] |
| b1k3ryd3r | ifthen: on my OSX, both the sshd_config and ssh_config are located in /etc/
there is no ssh/ sub dir oddly enough | [14:41] |
| RandalSchwartz | I see /etc/sshd_config | [14:42] |
| b1k3ryd3r | never noticed until now :) | [14:42] |
| RandalSchwartz | on my snow leopard machine | [14:42] |
| ifthen | well that's the system standard one i think | [14:42] |
| b1k3ryd3r | yeh thats strange eh RandalSchwartz | [14:42] |
| RandalSchwartz | yeah - that's what I'm thining | [14:42] |
| b1k3ryd3r | I dunno, maybe not | [14:42] |
| RandalSchwartz | installer's choice. :) | [14:42] |
| b1k3ryd3r | on FreeBSD it has a ssh sub dir
yah, suppose so | [14:42] |
| ifthen | well i just put one in and it didn't help or hurt
i still get timed out Randall I checked your suggestions but no dice yet btw i have used tcsh for many years as user only but just took the vnc csh out of the box for a try. going to set up a user with tch tcsh | [14:43] |
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| ifthen | b1k*, Randal, myself on OSX 10.6.8; it seems to me that a vps on FreeBSD which has its ssh_config and sshd_config in an ssh directory would be confused by these file being in /etc [no ssh directory]. I am thinking of copying those files to a /user/ssh/ directory. I have already put a few variable instantiation commands in one and it hasn't wrecked anything. I just wonder how a non-apple OS can find ssh_config and sshd_config. | [18:32] |
| b1k3ryd3r | in my personal opinion you are completely barking up the wrong tree, ifthen | [18:34] |
| ifthen | thanks b1* I am getting desperate and willing to try anything.
I am sick of being timed out. | [18:35] |
| b1k3ryd3r | I imagine so :( | [18:35] |
| ifthen | Where is that fruitful tree? | [18:38] |
| b1k3ryd3r | hehe
if it consoles you at all, ifthen, I time out constantly if you could see my auth.log it would look like I have an obssession with constantly ssh'ing to my vps | [18:39] |
| ifthen | Well I am spoiled by my shell provider in Hollywood who never times me out.
And now my own shell kicks me out... my shell is FreeBSD | [18:41] |
| b1k3ryd3r | same here | [18:42] |
| ifthen | Something is the matter | [18:42] |
| b1k3ryd3r | indeeed | [18:44] |
| ifthen | I guess it means more time with google. The only solution I saw to this problem was a case where there was a bad setting in Putty that was the problem. | [18:46] |
| b1k3ryd3r | do you use putty? | [18:46] |
| ifthen | no I have sworn off microsoft | [18:46] |
| b1k3ryd3r | ah goods
good I thought you were using putty on OSX lol | [18:47] |
| ifthen | heh i used to use it with ms | [18:47] |
| b1k3ryd3r | yah
same then I got on my first *nix shell and was hooked >_< | [18:47] |
| ifthen | I think macbooks and a VPS would be a great combination if I could make it happen.
maybe i need a pc-bsd book | [18:48] |
| b1k3ryd3r | ugh no
haha FreeBSD make a grreat desktop | [18:49] |
| ifthen | do you know about PC-BSD the new os?
you get a choice of all the unix desktops | [18:50] |
| b1k3ryd3r | yah I know it
I used it many moons ago | [18:51] |
| ifthen | Well it seems to me the macbook display is good enough
But I keep thinking maybe Apple doesn't want to play with FreeBSD In which case I'm done with Apple. I don't know if I'm paranoid or ignorant right now. | [18:52] |
| b1k3ryd3r | about? | [18:56] |
| ifthen | About apple and bsd | [18:56] |
| b1k3ryd3r | ah | [18:58] |
| ifthen | nice chatting b1*
gotta go now | [19:03] |
| b1k3ryd3r | see ya ifthen | [19:05] |
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| ifthen | b1k* I have had an SSH connection to my VPS open for about an hour. http://tinyurl.com/3d6itpu I included Randal's TCP keep alive suggestion. | [22:57] |
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| meingtsla | Success | [23:00] |
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