up_the_irons - not yet, other than backstage bar and grill for the great happy hour and this one particular bartender. :) finally used the map { } construct in perl. pure elegant ip address sorting. ;-) cool RandalSchwartz you move down to LA? RandalSchwartz: you gotta try "the happy ending" the sliders there are awesome. jpalmer: do you have the ability to check if a coupon code is still valid? jlgaddis-sjc: at ARP? nosir, I have no access these days ahh, okie dokie thanks up_the_irons wrote some code that.. replaced me :P lol lol, that sucks LOL automate and delegate(tm) jlgaddis-sjc: what code? nah, I was only really handking DNS requests.. and only to help him out because I saw how much time he was spending on them. so I handled them while he took that time to write the DNS code ""Go away or I will replace you with a very small shell script." s/^"// jlgaddis-sjc: hah yep :P hah up_the_irons: "EVIL", i think... lemme check. jlgaddis-sjc: that is the 2nd month free one. i can still do that, yeah Luckily, I wasn't replaced by a one-liner. I'd be questioning my purpose for existance :P up_the_irons: cool, @tbourke is looking for a new vps provider, pref. on the west coast. figured i'd try to trick^Wconvince him to try arp. =) it is the season for trickery ;) heh, interestingly enough i keep finding out about other (former, now) coworkers who also signed up w/ arp. hah cool that happened to a friend of mine in LA recently. he said he found out a co-worker signed up a VPS and he didn't even tell him about ARP yeah, this one (scott woodall) read one of my posts a long time ago and signed up then, apparently and everyone i know seems to stick w/ you after the "probationary period" so i guess that says something =) haha yeah; ARP is sticky reliability ftw i usually pull up my uptime reports from pingdom... which says as of right now, 99.98% uptime in the last 365 days 2h7m37s downtime, most of which from when i went from freebsd to debian nice I don't wanna jinx anything, but here's one of my hosts: $ uptime 11:34:41 up 733 days, 20:33, 2 users, load average: 1.45, 1.59, 1.52 $ holy crap, that is 3 days longer than 2 years up_the_irons: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jlgaddis/4340673033/in/photostream hah cool My personal ruptime consistently runs 600 seconds. :) lol ruptime ? It's a metaphor yes, hence my '?' I do not understand what your metaphor means It means I am dropped every 600 seconds of inactivity. ah rightio I know it's bsd or arp because a simultaneous connection to another isp holds up. web source suggested something about autologout setting in .cshrc last random web advice I followed got me locked out for a while. can't find the answer in the handbook either. dropped from what? from ssh login Randall, thanks there are some clientalive type settings you can play with in sshd_config that's likely a function of your shell man $yourshell :) boba i did look in ssh_config and it's not too promising. unless it's also killing you inside another app ah it happens to me too, I just use screen and ssh back in.. I figure its just my internet tethering with my phone.. its bound to happen no, sshd_config boba my error but I looked there too. Randall what in the shell is it? Pun intended. i have ClientAliveInterval set to 60, ClientAliveCountMax set to 3 usually I find that as long as something is 'happening' in the shell it does not drop .. if it is an unattended shell they tend to drop very easy if that's a serious question, please elaborate start by answering which shell you are using. blk* so you're getting the same behavior as me? yes ifthen heh Randal I'm trying ifthen: ignore it not very well. :P( unhelpful advice really man bash will not really help you Simple. Question. What. Shell. Are. You. Using. b1k3ryd3r - we don't know if he's using bash unless you know something from an earlier conversation Randall the stock csh on FreeBsd I think the stock csh has a timeout are you getting the word "logout" after 10 minutes? as in, have you noticed what happens? RS no it just quits silently The screen dies and won't respond. see if "autologout" is set oh, you're in screen? I have to ssh in again. then yes, that's likely a TCP problem and yes, you can force ssh to keep sending traffic are you behind a NAT firewall? s/firewall// :) NAT might be timing out after 10 minutes so then you don't have a good connect RS I assume the time-warner modem is but still not problem with other SSH sites. maybe other sites continue to send more things and yes, see sshd_config then unset autologout and possibly ssh_config (if its a cshell) pjs it is a cshell and I don't think I have an autologout IIRC but will recheck echo "TCPKeepAlive yes" >>$HOME/.ssh/config # on your local box see if that fixes it the default is "yes" though I dunno. I abhor the csh, so I don't use it anywhere RS my local box is a macbook but I will try. ifthen I add 'unset autologout' to all my .tcshrc's.. by default it's enabled yeah, see if autologout is set OK I will check for a .autologout but I think I did already. not .autologout ok no dot it's a variable type "set" at your shell see if autologout is one of them ok I have tried env and not seen it not env "set" IT'S NOT IN THE ENV. IT'S A SHELL VAR. a bit new to this, eh? :) RS all right already How did you guess? we're not casual about what we're asking. we're being precise. please just listen to what we're typing don't hallucinate. :( Believe me I will be reading this log and thank you RS Going to check "set" RandalSchwartz so you moved to LA recently or...? (sorry if I missed your answer earlier) I just work in LA. I still live in Portland. Gotcha what part of town? (work in LA that is) Culver City thanks pjs also. (mt) Media Temple :) RandalSchwartz oh nice.. They wanted me to interview a while back.. not looking for work tho. Cool company for sure ifthen sure thing Just a contractor here. moving them from svn to git right on.. how long are you in town for? ongoing cool.. I think there's a few LA guys here.. we should all meet for beers n such if you mean "for what specific range of days", see http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/dot-plan.txt there's a webcal link in there to be able to stalk me down to the hour. :) hah, I'll stick with IRC ;) RandalSchwartz: I was in Portland a couple weeks ago for puppetconf jpalmer - I was in portland over the weekend but otherwise not there my default location is Culver City now