[00:24] *** DDevine has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [05:33] *** RaNdY has quit IRC (Quit: changing servers) [05:38] *** RaNdY has joined #arpnetworks [05:49] *** RaNdY has quit IRC (Quit: changing servers) [05:52] *** RaNdY has joined #arpnetworks [07:13] *** Tadaka has joined #arpnetworks [10:08] up_the_irons - not yet, other than backstage bar and grill for the great happy hour and this one particular bartender. :) [10:18] *** HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks [10:43] finally used the map { } construct in perl. pure elegant ip address sorting. ;-) [10:43] cool [12:00] *** nesta is now known as b1k3ryd3r [12:10] *** jlgaddis-sjc has joined #arpnetworks [12:14] RandalSchwartz you move down to LA? [12:29] RandalSchwartz: you gotta try "the happy ending" the sliders there are awesome. [12:34] jpalmer: do you have the ability to check if a coupon code is still valid? [12:34] jlgaddis-sjc: at ARP? nosir, I have no access these days [12:35] ahh, okie dokie [12:35] thanks [12:35] up_the_irons wrote some code that.. replaced me :P lol [12:35] lol, that sucks [12:35] LOL [12:35] automate and delegate(tm) [12:36] jlgaddis-sjc: what code? [12:36] nah, I was only really handking DNS requests.. and only to help him out because I saw how much time he was spending on them. so I handled them while he took that time to write the DNS code [12:36] ""Go away or I will replace you with a very small shell script." [12:36] s/^"// [12:36] jlgaddis-sjc: hah yep :P [12:36] hah [12:36] up_the_irons: "EVIL", i think... lemme check. [12:37] jlgaddis-sjc: that is the 2nd month free one. i can still do that, yeah [12:37] Luckily, I wasn't replaced by a one-liner. I'd be questioning my purpose for existance :P [12:38] up_the_irons: cool, @tbourke is looking for a new vps provider, pref. on the west coast. figured i'd try to trick^Wconvince him to try arp. =) [12:38] it is the season for trickery ;) [12:41] heh, interestingly enough i keep finding out about other (former, now) coworkers who also signed up w/ arp. [12:42] hah cool [12:43] *** b1k3ryd3r is now known as nestea [12:43] that happened to a friend of mine in LA recently. he said he found out a co-worker signed up a VPS and he didn't even tell him about ARP [12:44] yeah, this one (scott woodall) read one of my posts a long time ago and signed up then, apparently [12:45] and everyone i know seems to stick w/ you after the "probationary period" so i guess that says something =) [12:46] haha yeah; ARP is sticky [12:46] reliability ftw [12:47] i usually pull up my uptime reports from pingdom... which says as of right now, 99.98% uptime in the last 365 days [12:47] 2h7m37s downtime, most of which from when i went from freebsd to debian [12:47] nice [12:48] I don't wanna jinx anything, but here's one of my hosts: [12:48] $ uptime [12:48] 11:34:41 up 733 days, 20:33, 2 users, load average: 1.45, 1.59, 1.52 [12:48] $ [12:48] * up_the_irons knocks on wood [12:49] holy crap, that is 3 days longer than 2 years [12:50] * mike-burns looks for old security holes. [12:50] up_the_irons: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jlgaddis/4340673033/in/photostream [12:52] hah cool [13:12] *** b1k3ryd3r has joined #arpnetworks [13:13] *** b1k3ryd3r is now known as byk3ryd3r [13:13] *** nestea has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [13:14] *** byk3ryd3r is now known as b1k3ryd3r [13:19] *** jlgaddis-sjc has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) [13:27] *** heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks [13:27] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer [13:45] *** djmd has joined #arpnetworks [14:09] *** ifthen has joined #arpnetworks [14:13] My personal ruptime consistently runs 600 seconds. :) [14:26] lol [14:26] ruptime [14:26] ? [14:29] It's a metaphor [14:30] yes, hence my '?' [14:30] I do not understand what your metaphor means [14:30] It means I am dropped every 600 seconds of inactivity. [14:31] ah [14:31] rightio [14:32] I know it's bsd or arp because a simultaneous connection to another isp holds up. [14:33] web source suggested something about autologout setting in .cshrc [14:34] last random web advice I followed got me locked out for a while. [14:34] can't find the answer in the handbook either. [14:35] dropped from what? [14:35] from ssh login Randall, thanks [14:35] there are some clientalive type settings you can play with in sshd_config [14:35] that's likely a function of your shell [14:35] man $yourshell :) [14:36] boba i did look in ssh_config and it's not too promising. [14:36] unless it's also killing you inside another app [14:36] ah it happens to me too, I just use screen and ssh back in.. I figure its just my internet tethering with my phone.. its bound to happen [14:36] no, sshd_config [14:36] boba my error but I looked there too. [14:37] * RandalSchwartz waits for ifthen to notice his suggestions [14:37] Randall what in the shell is it? Pun intended. [14:37] i have ClientAliveInterval set to 60, ClientAliveCountMax set to 3 [14:38] usually I find that as long as something is 'happening' in the shell it does not drop .. if it is an unattended shell they tend to drop very easy [14:38] if that's a serious question, please elaborate [14:38] start by answering which shell you are using. [14:38] blk* so you're getting the same behavior as me? [14:39] * RandalSchwartz wanders off [14:39] yes ifthen [14:39] heh [14:39] Randal I'm trying [14:39] ifthen: ignore it [14:39] not very well. :P( [14:39] unhelpful advice really [14:39] man bash [14:39] will not really help you [14:39] Simple. Question. What. Shell. Are. You. Using. [14:39] b1k3ryd3r - we don't know if he's using bash [14:40] unless you know something from an earlier conversation [14:40] Randall the stock csh on FreeBsd [14:40] I think the stock csh has a timeout [14:40] are you getting the word "logout" after 10 minutes? [14:40] as in, have you noticed what happens? [14:40] RS no it just quits silently [14:41] The screen dies and won't respond. [14:41] see if "autologout" is set [14:41] oh, you're in screen? [14:41] I have to ssh in again. [14:41] then yes, that's likely a TCP problem [14:41] and yes, you can force ssh to keep sending traffic [14:41] are you behind a NAT firewall? [14:41] s/firewall// :) [14:42] NAT might be timing out after 10 minutes [14:42] so then you don't have a good connect [14:42] RS I assume the time-warner modem is but still not problem with other SSH sites. [14:42] maybe other sites continue to send more things [14:42] and yes, see sshd_config then [14:42] unset autologout [14:42] and possibly ssh_config [14:42] (if its a cshell) [14:43] pjs it is a cshell and I don't think I have an autologout IIRC but will recheck [14:43] echo "TCPKeepAlive yes" >>$HOME/.ssh/config # on your local box [14:43] see if that fixes it [14:43] the default is "yes" though [14:44] I dunno. I abhor the csh, so I don't use it anywhere [14:44] RS my local box is a macbook but I will try. [14:44] ifthen I add 'unset autologout' to all my .tcshrc's.. by default it's enabled [14:44] yeah, see if autologout is set [14:45] OK I will check for a .autologout but I think I did already. [14:45] not .autologout [14:45] ok no dot [14:45] it's a variable [14:46] type "set" at your shell [14:46] see if autologout is one of them [14:46] ok I have tried env and not seen it [14:46] not env [14:46] "set" [14:46] * RandalSchwartz rolls eyes [14:46] IT'S NOT IN THE ENV. IT'S A SHELL VAR. [14:47] a bit new to this, eh? :) [14:47] RS all right already [14:47] How did you guess? [14:47] we're not casual about what we're asking. we're being precise. please just listen to what we're typing [14:47] don't hallucinate. :( [14:47] Believe me I will be reading this log and thank you RS [14:48] Going to check "set" [14:49] RandalSchwartz so you moved to LA recently or...? [14:49] (sorry if I missed your answer earlier) [14:49] I just work in LA. [14:49] I still live in Portland. [14:49] Gotcha [14:50] what part of town? [14:50] (work in LA that is) [14:50] Culver City [14:50] thanks pjs also. [14:50] (mt) Media Temple :) [14:51] RandalSchwartz oh nice.. They wanted me to interview a while back.. not looking for work tho. Cool company for sure [14:51] ifthen sure thing [14:51] Just a contractor here. [14:51] moving them from svn to git [14:53] right on.. how long are you in town for? [14:53] ongoing [14:53] cool.. I think there's a few LA guys here.. we should all meet for beers n such [14:53] if you mean "for what specific range of days", see http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/dot-plan.txt [14:53] there's a webcal link in there to be able to stalk me down to the hour. :) [14:55] hah, I'll stick with IRC ;) [14:57] *** boba has quit IRC (Quit: boba) [14:58] *** boba has joined #arpnetworks [15:02] *** ifthen has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [15:11] *** ifthen has joined #arpnetworks [15:30] *** Tadaka has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep) [15:36] *** Ehtyar has joined #arpnetworks [15:56] *** ifthen has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [17:23] *** hsbt has quit IRC (Quit: Tiarra 0.1: SIGTERM received; exit) [17:24] *** hsbt has joined #arpnetworks [17:42] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) [17:54] *** niner has joined #arpnetworks [18:02] *** niner has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [18:59] RandalSchwartz: I was in Portland a couple weeks ago for puppetconf [19:56] *** _id has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [20:00] *** _id has joined #arpnetworks [20:11] *** HighJinx has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [20:17] *** djmd has left [20:25] *** pjs has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [20:26] *** pjs has joined #arpnetworks [20:26] *** pjs is now known as Guest85074 [20:59] *** Tadaka has joined #arpnetworks [21:17] *** Guest85074 has quit IRC (*.net *.split) [21:23] *** Guest85074 has joined #arpnetworks [21:50] jpalmer - I was in portland over the weekend but otherwise not there [21:50] my default location is Culver City now [22:39] *** Tadaka has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep) [23:21] *** Ehtyar has quit IRC (Quit: There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. 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