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RandalSchwartz: up_the_irons - not yet, other than backstage bar and grill for the great happy hour and this one particular bartender. :)
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toddf: finally used the map { } construct in perl. pure elegant ip address sorting. ;-)
RandalSchwartz: cool
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pjs: RandalSchwartz you move down to LA?
jpalmer: RandalSchwartz: you gotta try "the happy ending" the sliders there are awesome.
jlgaddis-sjc: jpalmer: do you have the ability to check if a coupon code is still valid?
jpalmer: jlgaddis-sjc: at ARP? nosir, I have no access these days
jlgaddis-sjc: ahh, okie dokie
thanks
jpalmer: up_the_irons wrote some code that.. replaced me :P lol
jlgaddis-sjc: lol, that sucks
up_the_irons: LOL
automate and delegate(tm)
jlgaddis-sjc: what code?
jpalmer: nah, I was only really handking DNS requests.. and only to help him out because I saw how much time he was spending on them. so I handled them while he took that time to write the DNS code
jlgaddis-sjc: ""Go away or I will replace you with a very small shell script."
s/^"//
jpalmer: jlgaddis-sjc: hah yep :P
up_the_irons: hah
jlgaddis-sjc: up_the_irons: "EVIL", i think... lemme check.
up_the_irons: jlgaddis-sjc: that is the 2nd month free one. i can still do that, yeah
jpalmer: Luckily, I wasn't replaced by a one-liner. I'd be questioning my purpose for existance :P
jlgaddis-sjc: up_the_irons: cool, @tbourke is looking for a new vps provider, pref. on the west coast. figured i'd try to trick^Wconvince him to try arp. =)
jpalmer: it is the season for trickery ;)
jlgaddis-sjc: heh, interestingly enough i keep finding out about other (former, now) coworkers who also signed up w/ arp.
up_the_irons: hah cool
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up_the_irons: that happened to a friend of mine in LA recently. he said he found out a co-worker signed up a VPS and he didn't even tell him about ARP
jlgaddis-sjc: yeah, this one (scott woodall) read one of my posts a long time ago and signed up then, apparently
and everyone i know seems to stick w/ you after the "probationary period" so i guess that says something =)
up_the_irons: haha yeah; ARP is sticky
reliability ftw
jlgaddis-sjc: i usually pull up my uptime reports from pingdom... which says as of right now, 99.98% uptime in the last 365 days
2h7m37s downtime, most of which from when i went from freebsd to debian
up_the_irons: nice
I don't wanna jinx anything, but here's one of my hosts:
$ uptime
11:34:41 up 733 days, 20:33, 2 users, load average: 1.45, 1.59, 1.52
$
-: up_the_irons knocks on wood
up_the_irons: holy crap, that is 3 days longer than 2 years
-: mike-burns looks for old security holes.
jlgaddis-sjc: up_the_irons: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jlgaddis/4340673033/in/photostream
up_the_irons: hah cool
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ifthen: My personal ruptime consistently runs 600 seconds. :)
b1k3ryd3r: lol
ruptime
?
ifthen: It's a metaphor
b1k3ryd3r: yes, hence my '?'
I do not understand what your metaphor means
ifthen: It means I am dropped every 600 seconds of inactivity.
b1k3ryd3r: ah
rightio
ifthen: I know it's bsd or arp because a simultaneous connection to another isp holds up.
web source suggested something about autologout setting in .cshrc
last random web advice I followed got me locked out for a while.
can't find the answer in the handbook either.
RandalSchwartz: dropped from what?
ifthen: from ssh login Randall, thanks
boba: there are some clientalive type settings you can play with in sshd_config
RandalSchwartz: that's likely a function of your shell
man $yourshell :)
ifthen: boba i did look in ssh_config and it's not too promising.
RandalSchwartz: unless it's also killing you inside another app
b1k3ryd3r: ah it happens to me too, I just use screen and ssh back in.. I figure its just my internet tethering with my phone.. its bound to happen
boba: no, sshd_config
ifthen: boba my error but I looked there too.
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ifthen: Randall what in the shell is it? Pun intended.
boba: i have ClientAliveInterval set to 60, ClientAliveCountMax set to 3
b1k3ryd3r: usually I find that as long as something is 'happening' in the shell it does not drop .. if it is an unattended shell they tend to drop very easy
RandalSchwartz: if that's a serious question, please elaborate
start by answering which shell you are using.
ifthen: blk* so you're getting the same behavior as me?
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b1k3ryd3r: yes ifthen
boba: heh
ifthen: Randal I'm trying
b1k3ryd3r: ifthen: ignore it
RandalSchwartz: not very well. :P(
b1k3ryd3r: unhelpful advice really
man bash
will not really help you
RandalSchwartz: Simple. Question. What. Shell. Are. You. Using.
b1k3ryd3r - we don't know if he's using bash
unless you know something from an earlier conversation
ifthen: Randall the stock csh on FreeBsd
RandalSchwartz: I think the stock csh has a timeout
are you getting the word "logout" after 10 minutes?
as in, have you noticed what happens?
ifthen: RS no it just quits silently
The screen dies and won't respond.
RandalSchwartz: see if "autologout" is set
oh, you're in screen?
ifthen: I have to ssh in again.
RandalSchwartz: then yes, that's likely a TCP problem
and yes, you can force ssh to keep sending traffic
are you behind a NAT firewall?
s/firewall// :)
NAT might be timing out after 10 minutes
so then you don't have a good connect
ifthen: RS I assume the time-warner modem is but still not problem with other SSH sites.
RandalSchwartz: maybe other sites continue to send more things
and yes, see sshd_config then
pjs: unset autologout
RandalSchwartz: and possibly ssh_config
pjs: (if its a cshell)
ifthen: pjs it is a cshell and I don't think I have an autologout IIRC but will recheck
RandalSchwartz: echo "TCPKeepAlive yes" >>$HOME/.ssh/config # on your local box
see if that fixes it
the default is "yes" though
I dunno. I abhor the csh, so I don't use it anywhere
ifthen: RS my local box is a macbook but I will try.
pjs: ifthen I add 'unset autologout' to all my .tcshrc's.. by default it's enabled
RandalSchwartz: yeah, see if autologout is set
ifthen: OK I will check for a .autologout but I think I did already.
RandalSchwartz: not .autologout
ifthen: ok no dot
RandalSchwartz: it's a variable
type "set" at your shell
see if autologout is one of them
ifthen: ok I have tried env and not seen it
RandalSchwartz: not env
"set"
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RandalSchwartz: IT'S NOT IN THE ENV. IT'S A SHELL VAR.
a bit new to this, eh? :)
ifthen: RS all right already
How did you guess?
RandalSchwartz: we're not casual about what we're asking. we're being precise. please just listen to what we're typing
don't hallucinate. :(
ifthen: Believe me I will be reading this log and thank you RS
Going to check "set"
pjs: RandalSchwartz so you moved to LA recently or...?
(sorry if I missed your answer earlier)
RandalSchwartz: I just work in LA.
I still live in Portland.
pjs: Gotcha
what part of town?
(work in LA that is)
RandalSchwartz: Culver City
ifthen: thanks pjs also.
RandalSchwartz: (mt) Media Temple :)
pjs: RandalSchwartz oh nice.. They wanted me to interview a while back.. not looking for work tho. Cool company for sure
ifthen sure thing
RandalSchwartz: Just a contractor here.
moving them from svn to git
pjs: right on.. how long are you in town for?
RandalSchwartz: ongoing
pjs: cool.. I think there's a few LA guys here.. we should all meet for beers n such
RandalSchwartz: if you mean "for what specific range of days", see http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/dot-plan.txt
there's a webcal link in there to be able to stalk me down to the hour. :)
pjs: hah, I'll stick with IRC ;)
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jpalmer: RandalSchwartz: I was in Portland a couple weeks ago for puppetconf
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RandalSchwartz: jpalmer - I was in portland over the weekend but otherwise not there
my default location is Culver City now
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