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wallshot has joined #arpnetworks -: up_the_irons drops a pin mattx86: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQFEY9RIRJA
hey up_the_irons :) up_the_irons: don't ever do that again
;) mattx86: haha wallshot: lol @ cricket mattx86: :) ***: boba has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)
boba has joined #arpnetworks wallshot: there's a name i can't see without thinking of that gross tapioca-filled drinks they sell down the block
i once asked them for a smoothie, and they had the audacity to decide i wanted it full of boba. i don't go there anymore.
sometimes i wonder if up_the_irons runs arp all by himself
maybe he's the Garry who has handled every support request i've put in. =D up_the_irons: LOL, I am that Garry wallshot: :-D
you rock, Garry
thanks for all the support replies up_the_irons: jpalmer used to help with DNS requests, but those all went to zero once the Reverse DNS Manager was implemented
no problem -: up_the_irons takes a bow wallshot: oh. i owe you a reply still i think, i' meant to but kept putting it off
you setup my bandwidth graph and pointed at the twitter info about updating to current plans
thanks a ton!
oh jeez, that was over a month ago. i'm a jerk.
bbiaf ***: heavysixer has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) nesta: lol
GARRY ROX MY SOX TOO WALLSHOT ***: heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks
ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer nesta: up_the_irons: whats the charge for an OS change? up_the_irons: nesta: http://support.arpnetworks.com/kb/vps/re-install-or-change-os nesta: thnx up_the_irons: wallshot: no problem, i take no offense to non-replied support tickets (less work for me ;)
nesta: np ***: heavysixer has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)
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heavysixer has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) ifthen: Nestea, cotvnc users, where is the best copy? Mine suddenly stopped connecting and I need a good fresh copy. Sourceforge was the last. ***: heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks
ChanServ sets mode: +o heavysixer ifthen: Or is there anything else that will run on this white Macbook?
OSX 10.5.8 mattx86: ifthen: try TigerVNC: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/tigervnc/index.php?title=Main_Page#Downloads ifthen: It was connectint me to the QEMU screen at kvr... and just stopped doing that. mattx86: seems alright on linux ifthen: matt I will check it out.
Does TigerVNC have a place to put a login name, even though it is not needed at ARP? mattx86: ifthen: I don't believe VNC uses a login name; only a password. or at least that's how it seems to be with TigerVNC ifthen: same with cotvnc but the login screen keeps wanting one or won't take the pw from the arp site wallshot: vnc does only use a password ifthen: i could never log in wallshot: but i suppose there are enough forks of it now that someone may have rolled some username support into one ifthen: wallshot do you get asked for a username when you connect? wallshot: can't recall ever being asked for a username on vnc
after i connect, when i'm staring at my console, i see my freebsd login asking for a username ;) ifthen: well I've tried my freebsd username and it's not working iirc
next time i am able to connect will try it again. mattx86: usually I just specify the IP and port/display number on the command line, and once it connects, pops up a password dialog, and when entered, I see the console of my VPS or what not ifthen: I have never seen that console. It's my grail. mattx86: and from there, I proceed to enter my username/password that's on the VPS, as if it were a standard box that I was physically sitting in front of wallshot: it should have nothing to do with your freebsd username, as the vnc server is not tied to your system (except that it shows you your system once you connect)
should be nothing you can do on your vps that would affect the vnc connection
except possibly shut it down, that might cause vnc to crap when there's no console to display ifthen: I see only QEMU interface.
When I am able to even connect. mattx86: ifthen: hm.. so you see the QEMU BIOS output, but it's not booting the OS? ifthen: It tells me it is freebsd and asks for a username and pw
I expect a control panel or something but i've never seen it mattx86: ahh
so it seems you're getting your VPS's console ifthen: well that's what I'm after...
out of band thing first option
I have got access with SSH working
But i'd like to see the panel so i can reboot and get a new password mattx86: ifthen: ah, for that, have you been to: https://portal.arpnetworks.com ifthen: or superuser status back ***: Tadaka has joined #arpnetworks jlgaddis: boot into single user mode from the console mattx86: I don't think you can change the password they give you on the portal site and via the out of band management (or can you?), but yeah, you can certainly change your root password, etc jlgaddis: maybe i misunderstood what ifthen is trying to do (since i just walked in)... i'll go back to shutting up. =) ifthen: matt i think i am referring to to the url u just posted. mattx86: well, as far as the portal site and out-of-band management passwords go, if you can't change them via the portal, I'd guess support could change it for you wallshot: that would almost certainly be considred a bug, if you can't change the password
but i don't see where it would be available either
yep there it is: https://portal.arpnetworks.com/accounts/589/edit mattx86: last I checked (portal at least), you couldn't(?) wallshot: okay
don't go edit my account
go edit yours mattx86: ah lol wallshot: but you get the point mattx86: there's that, but can you change the OOB password? wallshot: "Edit Profile" in the main menu jlgaddis: you can change your portal password
i don't think you can change the password for the serial console though wallshot: oooh, i thoguht you meant change the password they give you [for the portal site] on the portal site mattx86: sorry, I meant both - portal and OOB passwords jlgaddis: what, exactly, are you trying to do?
nevermind, it's ifthen mattx86: jlgaddis: I think we're unecessarily babbling on, in respects to what ifthen needs :) ifthen: I lost my su status. I need to get it back by rebooting. jlgaddis: you lost your vps root password? ifthen: to reboot i want to see the console wallshot: ya know i had assumed oob pw == portal pw. wasn't til i went back to look at the oob info -after- changing my portal password that i see they're not really in sync ifthen: no I haven't lost any passwords. I changed my username and lost my su status as a result. jlgaddis: ahh, okay wallshot: so console in and login as root ifthen: username on freebsd jlgaddis: just log in as root at the console wallshot: no need to take downtime jlgaddis: add your uid to the wheel group ifthen: I can't be root jlgaddis: you did say freebsd, right? ifthen: yes mattx86: wallshot: re: ah, yea. I think I was thrown by that initially, fwiw jlgaddis: you disabled the ability for root to login on the console? wallshot: why? did you set console to insecure in /etc/ttys? ifthen: when I go #su I get sorry wallshot: don't su
login as root jlgaddis: *LOGIN* as root
not su wallshot: login: rootnpassword: root'spasswordn jlgaddis: login: root
heh, yeah wallshot: just need to vnc into console to do it
or be using an OS that comes with sshd allowing root by default ifthen: ok good, as soon a I can get a vnc to the console I'll try it jlgaddis: have you created a public key and added it into your account on the portal? ifthen: yes I have done all that and can ssh in, method B
But I want to get vnc working. jlgaddis: yeah, you're gonna need it to get to the console ifthen: I want both methods to work. mattx86: ifthen: it's no different, really. unless you want to reinstall via the ISO in your virtual CDROM drive
in which case, you can tell it to boot the ISO, in order to so
ifthen: that aside, depends on how you're doing it. if doing it unencrypted, it should just work ifthen: well maybe I could do it just with the method B pure ssh but I still would like to get a vnc connection and login like others have.
I don't like this locked out feeling. mattx86: ifthen: hm.. are you wanting the VNC login for a desktop-like experience? ifthen: yes
also to see the boot progress and menu on reconfiguring freebsd. I need to get ports. jlgaddis: portsnap fetch && portsnap extract
you know, freebsd in a vm on your desktop might be a cheaper learning experience mattx86: I dunno.. I mean, generally out-of-band management is used to regain access - not 'full time' access or such. (I don't know that ARP would be happy with that?) jlgaddis: i don't think it'd be a big deal mattx86: boot progress aside, you can always setup a vnc server and login to it like that ***: Tadaka has quit IRC (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep) jlgaddis: i could see some paranoid folks having sshd, etc. permanently disabled mattx86: ah jlgaddis: ssh to conserver, tunnel vnc over ssh to get to the console
i only permit ssh from specific ip's so if i'm somewhere else and need to get in i have to do that anyway mattx86: yea, true
could do port knocking too :) jlgaddis: kludgy hack mattx86: meh ;) ifthen: well you guys went a little over my head but np, My immediate objective is to get connected via cotvnc or equivalent and regain my su status with a reboot. jlgaddis: you don't need to reboot
and rebooting by itself won't fix the problem
ssh to the console server: "ssh username@console.cust.arpnetworks.com"
hit "t" once logged in and it'll give you the exact command to cut and paste into a terminal to set up the tunnel
"ssh -f jeremygaddis@console.cust.arpnetworks.com -L 5955:kvr04.arpnetworks.com:6032 -N", in my case
take that first number (5955) and subtract 5900 = 55
fire up cotvnc, host = localhost, display = 55, password = whatever, hit connect
you should be looking at your console, login using root and your root password
"pw user mod <username> -G wheel" should add your unprivileged user to the wheel group up_the_irons: you can, but through a support request
(that was actually in reply to: │16:26:04 jlgaddis | i don't think you can change the password for the serial console though) -: jlgaddis nods ifthen: Would I wind up as a user with root privileges or as the su? jlgaddis: you'll wind up with your user being in the wheel group, which is what allows su'ing ifthen: Well I am grateful for the energy put into my problem and I see a pre-requisite is to get a vnc client running so I'll work more on that. I do wonder what broke cotvnc. I have rm'd it from my disc.
There seem to be only a few clients which will run on this book.
bbl I have to drive now. ***: ifthen has left -: jlgaddis shakes his head ***: wallshot has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)
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ifthen has joined #arpnetworks up_the_irons: would anyone be interested in jabber.arpnetworks.com, a free jabber server? not sure why companies offer free jabber servers, but there tend to be a lot out there, and sometimes i need one for myself... niner: Sure.
Why not. up_the_irons: 1 vote ***: niner has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) jpalmer: up_the_irons: I'm not sure. for the most part, I use google talk for jabber services. but I'd possibly be interested in one where.. we can do MUC's up_the_irons: jpalmer: yeah i'd enable all the extensions for fun :) jpalmer: jabber is something we use extensively at work. so if we *needed* one, we'd probably set it up. (Our core services are based around XMPP) up_the_irons: cool mattx86: I do my best to avoid IM services ;)
I like the nature of IRC better
although, apparently MUC is IRC-like ? jpalmer: similar, yea mattx86: tbh, before I googled for it, I thought you meant some sort of XMPP version of a MUD/MUCK ;) ***: heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: heavysixer) jpalmer: hehe. I'm WAY too busy these days for such frolic-ary! mattx86: :)
me too. I'd like to get back into MUDs though jpalmer: ok, quick vote: pre-order a kindle-fire, or no?
I used to code on a godwars2000 codebase. was pretty popular for several years. I have over 300 simultaneous players during peak hours.
s/have/had/ mattx86: I'd like an 'e-reader' one of these days. sony and kindle have appealed to me
wow :P
that's awesome
IIRC, I liked to play Merc MUDs.. silly me, I'd navigate to one of the merchants, buy an ice wine, drink it, and attempt to talk to the other players :)
either that, or slay the fell beasts in the tower ;) jpalmer: it's been years. but I *think* the gw2k codebase, was a fork of a Merc mattx86: yeah, according to wikipedia's Merc (MUD) page
or atleast "GodWars"
good times -: jpalmer is half tempted to compete for the next season of "Top Shot" jpalmer: if they didn't focus so much on the drama, and focosed on the shooting.. I'd not hesitate. ***: niner has joined #arpnetworks mattx86: what channel is that on? I've heard of it before ***: heavysixer has joined #arpnetworks
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