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[11:44] <raptelan> anybody here running netbsd?
[11:47] <RandalSchwartz> freebsd!
[11:47] <nestea> FreeBSD for life
[11:53] <RandalSchwartz> and beyond!
[11:53] <milki> lol
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[12:00] <jpalmer> CentOS and RHEl, and FreeBSD!
[12:00] <RandalSchwartz> no linux for me
[12:00] <RandalSchwartz> I like to sleep at night
[12:02] <milki> sleep!? at night!?! thats the best time to get work done!
[12:03] * jpalmer sleeps just fine. ;)
[12:04] <jpalmer> opsview+foreman+puppet == a good nights sleep.
[12:04] <RandalSchwartz> how fast do you get back to fix a zeroday?
[12:05] <RandalSchwartz> far more of those for linux than for any of the BSDs
[12:05] <jpalmer> depends on the scope of the threat.   just like any other OS.
[12:06] <jpalmer> if it's something that affects us,  and the likelyhood of it being problematic is high,  I push out a fix or workaround immediately after it's tested.  if it doesn't impact us,   I don't.
[12:07] <jpalmer> the OS wars,   are retarded.  the OS is simply a tool to get a job done.  and managing *any* OS,  follows the same fundamentals and principles, as any other OS.
[12:07] <mike-burns> Editor wars are dumb, too.
[12:07] <nestea> chmod -R 700 /*
[12:07] <jpalmer> agreed,  and language wars,  mta wars,  etc
[12:08] <nestea> no one can mess with that !
[12:08] <jpalmer> use what you like,  I'll use what I like.  what is there to debate :P
[12:08] <mike-burns> There are a few objective things to debate. I'm sure.
[12:09] <mike-burns> vi is better than ed for day-to-day programming.
[12:09] <jpalmer> the only time I care about *your* usage or preferences,  is when we're forced to co-admin machines :P
[12:10] <jpalmer> (and with puppet,  I sometimes don't even care then.  because if you are logging into a machine (other than in the lab)..  you're doing something wrong.
[12:12] <nestea> FreeBSD is still the best ok
[12:14] * jpalmer has used fbsd for years.  but,   I don't dislike windows,  or OSX,  or RHEL.
[12:19] <milki> ive forgotten how to use windows...
[12:21] <jpalmer> it's like a camera.  point. click. shoot.
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[17:12] <up_the_irons> anyone else seeing lag through savvis?
[17:18] <RvN> look good for me
[17:18] <RvN> btw hey up_the_irons :) how u doing
[17:23] <up_the_irons> RvN: i'm good, how are you?
[17:23] <RvN> fine thx
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