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raptelan: anybody here running netbsd?
RandalSchwartz: freebsd!
nestea: FreeBSD for life
RandalSchwartz: and beyond!
milki: lol
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jpalmer: CentOS and RHEl, and FreeBSD!
RandalSchwartz: no linux for me
I like to sleep at night
milki: sleep!? at night!?! thats the best time to get work done!
-: jpalmer sleeps just fine. ;)
jpalmer: opsview+foreman+puppet == a good nights sleep.
RandalSchwartz: how fast do you get back to fix a zeroday?
far more of those for linux than for any of the BSDs
jpalmer: depends on the scope of the threat. just like any other OS.
if it's something that affects us, and the likelyhood of it being problematic is high, I push out a fix or workaround immediately after it's tested. if it doesn't impact us, I don't.
the OS wars, are retarded. the OS is simply a tool to get a job done. and managing *any* OS, follows the same fundamentals and principles, as any other OS.
mike-burns: Editor wars are dumb, too.
nestea: chmod -R 700 /*
jpalmer: agreed, and language wars, mta wars, etc
nestea: no one can mess with that !
jpalmer: use what you like, I'll use what I like. what is there to debate :P
mike-burns: There are a few objective things to debate. I'm sure.
vi is better than ed for day-to-day programming.
jpalmer: the only time I care about *your* usage or preferences, is when we're forced to co-admin machines :P
(and with puppet, I sometimes don't even care then. because if you are logging into a machine (other than in the lab).. you're doing something wrong.
nestea: FreeBSD is still the best ok
-: jpalmer has used fbsd for years. but, I don't dislike windows, or OSX, or RHEL.
milki: ive forgotten how to use windows...
jpalmer: it's like a camera. point. click. shoot.
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up_the_irons: anyone else seeing lag through savvis?
RvN: look good for me
btw hey up_the_irons :) how u doing
up_the_irons: RvN: i'm good, how are you?
RvN: fine thx
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