Just worked through the example in the FreeBSD handbook on ports, adding lsof. It failed with this error:"Configure failed unexpectedly" "no kernel sources in /usr/source/sys OR /sys. What does it mean? I'll check back later. perhaps you don't have the kernel sources installed? ok what are they? good seeing you again. the source code for the kernel uh wouldn't they have to be there for bsd to run? not the source code, no oh it's compiled only? yeah, look at the upgrading freebsd chapter in the handbook it should walk you through how to install the sources am I missing some parts here? 04:40 < jlgaddis> the source code for the kernel so bsd can run without them? do windows machines need the source code in order to run windows? live and learn. they don't need the source to add programs. well I'll take your kind advice and read more in the man. you can install a pre-compiled binary version of lsof (if one exists) without the need for the source code "man pkgadd" I guess the handbook on ports assumes source is there. actually, here's an example specifically for lsof, straight from the handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/packages-using.html yes I've been reading it but I wanted to try the ports example..I don't need the program. you might want to hang around in #freebsd. there's some freebsd users here but the channel is primarily for arp. yes, well I got my ass kicked over on #freebsd so I thought I'd see if this problem is peculiar to the arp bsd installation. and I appreciate your comments thanks if you just want to see how the process works, try installing something like wakeonlan "I want what your're smoking" is what I heard over there. simple, quick, and little or no requirements hah On something I know to be fact. re wakeonlan maybe I'll give it a try. do you use it? I'll check back tomorrow in case anyone else has a comment. nite jlgaddis no, but if you just want to see how ports are built, that's a good one to use later ifyes you need kernel sources to build lsof its funny because I ran into this just the other day myself Hey Nestea thanks for the corroboration. I'm worried about other ports when I can't get the textbook example to run. What did u do about it? just csup'ed src thanks b1k... np b1k* were you having problems with ports? this is nestea :) nah I just had the same lsof issue the other day oops is nestea about tea? nah everyone asks that t hough :P well give me a clue its just a play on my old nick 'nesta' my interal grep is boken on nesta too no worries well I guess I'll read up on csup and try that. On my username change problem it looks like the best route is to add a newuser with my preferred nick and delete the assigned one later. whats your 'username change problem' ? want to change from assigned username to personal choice username. add a user ? yes that seems to be the best way useradd or user add or add user in pw you can just cp over any data in your current users directory and chown ir to your new user :) adduser is probably the easiest I like the command line when it works well then man pw :) I prefer using pw myself pw useradd ... etc pw usermod ... etc I thought I could use usermod to swap pw's but that was a fantasy. well off to try things again. see you later. enjoy usermod -p works on OpenBSD but I suspect thats not what you're using toddf I'm using freebsd here 8.1? I notice it doesn't have vip vi password command vipw ? oops but i did try vipw i think as i had the man in front of me whatever it is well back to that ever unfolding bsd man