ifthen: Just worked through the example in the FreeBSD handbook on ports, adding lsof. It failed with this error:"Configure failed unexpectedly" "no kernel sources in /usr/source/sys OR /sys.
What does it mean? I'll check back later.
jlgaddis: perhaps you don't have the kernel sources installed?
ifthen: ok what are they?
good seeing you again.
jlgaddis: the source code for the kernel
ifthen: uh wouldn't they have to be there for bsd to run?
jlgaddis: not the source code, no
ifthen: oh it's compiled only?
jlgaddis: yeah, look at the upgrading freebsd chapter in the handbook
it should walk you through how to install the sources
ifthen: am I missing some parts here?
jlgaddis: 04:40 < jlgaddis> the source code for the kernel
ifthen: so bsd can run without them?
jlgaddis: do windows machines need the source code in order to run windows?
ifthen: live and learn.
they don't need the source to add programs.
well I'll take your kind advice and read more in the man.
jlgaddis: you can install a pre-compiled binary version of lsof (if one exists) without the need for the source code
"man pkgadd"
ifthen: I guess the handbook on ports assumes source is there.
jlgaddis: actually, here's an example specifically for lsof, straight from the handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/packages-using.html
ifthen: yes I've been reading it but I wanted to try the ports example..I don't need the program.
jlgaddis: you might want to hang around in #freebsd. there's some freebsd users here but the channel is primarily for arp.
ifthen: yes, well I got my ass kicked over on #freebsd so I thought I'd see if this problem is peculiar to the arp bsd installation.
and I appreciate your comments thanks
jlgaddis: if you just want to see how the process works, try installing something like wakeonlan
ifthen: "I want what your're smoking" is what I heard over there.
jlgaddis: simple, quick, and little or no requirements
hah
ifthen: On something I know to be fact.
re wakeonlan maybe I'll give it a try. do you use it?
I'll check back tomorrow in case anyone else has a comment.
nite jlgaddis
jlgaddis: no, but if you just want to see how ports are built, that's a good one to use
later
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nestea: ifyes you need kernel sources to build lsof
its funny because I ran into this just the other day myself
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ifthen: Hey Nestea thanks for the corroboration. I'm worried about other ports when I can't get the textbook example to run. What did u do about it?
b1k3ryd3r: just csup'ed src
ifthen: thanks b1k...
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b1k3ryd3r: np
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ifthen: b1k* were you having problems with ports?
b1k3ryd3r: this is nestea :)
nah I just had the same lsof issue the other day
ifthen: oops
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ifthen: is nestea about tea?
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nestea: nah
everyone asks that t hough :P
ifthen: well give me a clue
nestea: its just a play on my old nick 'nesta'
ifthen: my interal grep is boken on nesta too
nestea: no worries
ifthen: well I guess I'll read up on csup and try that.
On my username change problem it looks like the best route is to add a newuser with my preferred nick and delete the assigned one later.
nestea: whats your 'username change problem' ?
ifthen: want to change from assigned username to personal choice username.
nestea: add a user ?
ifthen: yes that seems to be the best way
useradd or user add or add user in pw
nestea: you can just cp over any data in your current users directory and chown ir to your new user :)
adduser is probably the easiest
ifthen: I like the command line when it works
nestea: well then
man pw
:)
I prefer using pw myself
pw useradd ... etc
pw usermod ... etc
ifthen: I thought I could use usermod to swap pw's but that was a fantasy.
well off to try things again. see you later.
nestea: enjoy
toddf: usermod -p works on OpenBSD but I suspect thats not what you're using
ifthen: toddf I'm using freebsd here 8.1?
I notice it doesn't have vip
vi password command
toddf: vipw ?
ifthen: oops
but i did try vipw i think as i had the man in front of me
whatever it is
well back to that ever unfolding bsd man
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