#arpnetworks 2011-09-24,Sat

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ifthenJust worked through the example in the FreeBSD handbook on ports, adding lsof. It failed with this error:"Configure failed unexpectedly" "no kernel sources in /usr/source/sys OR /sys.
What does it mean? I'll check back later.
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jlgaddisperhaps you don't have the kernel sources installed? [01:29]
ifthenok what are they?
good seeing you again.
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jlgaddisthe source code for the kernel [01:30]
ifthenuh wouldn't they have to be there for bsd to run? [01:30]
jlgaddisnot the source code, no [01:30]
ifthenoh it's compiled only? [01:30]
jlgaddisyeah, look at the upgrading freebsd chapter in the handbook
it should walk you through how to install the sources
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ifthenam I missing some parts here? [01:32]
jlgaddis04:40 < jlgaddis> the source code for the kernel [01:32]
ifthenso bsd can run without them? [01:33]
jlgaddisdo windows machines need the source code in order to run windows? [01:33]
ifthenlive and learn.
they don't need the source to add programs.
well I'll take your kind advice and read more in the man.
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jlgaddisyou can install a pre-compiled binary version of lsof (if one exists) without the need for the source code
"man pkgadd"
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ifthenI guess the handbook on ports assumes source is there. [01:36]
jlgaddisactually, here's an example specifically for lsof, straight from the handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/packages-using.html [01:36]
ifthenyes I've been reading it but I wanted to try the ports example..I don't need the program. [01:37]
jlgaddisyou might want to hang around in #freebsd. there's some freebsd users here but the channel is primarily for arp. [01:38]
ifthenyes, well I got my ass kicked over on #freebsd so I thought I'd see if this problem is peculiar to the arp bsd installation.
and I appreciate your comments thanks
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jlgaddisif you just want to see how the process works, try installing something like wakeonlan [01:41]
ifthen"I want what your're smoking" is what I heard over there. [01:41]
jlgaddissimple, quick, and little or no requirements
hah
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ifthenOn something I know to be fact.
re wakeonlan maybe I'll give it a try. do you use it?
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I'll check back tomorrow in case anyone else has a comment.
nite jlgaddis
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jlgaddisno, but if you just want to see how ports are built, that's a good one to use
later
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nesteaifyes you need kernel sources to build lsof
its funny because I ran into this just the other day myself
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ifthenHey Nestea thanks for the corroboration. I'm worried about other ports when I can't get the textbook example to run. What did u do about it? [11:33]
b1k3ryd3rjust csup'ed src [11:36]
ifthenthanks b1k... [11:37]
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ifthenb1k* were you having problems with ports? [11:40]
b1k3ryd3rthis is nestea :)
nah I just had the same lsof issue the other day
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ifthenoops [11:42]
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ifthenis nestea about tea? [11:43]
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nesteanah
everyone asks that t hough :P
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ifthenwell give me a clue [11:44]
nesteaits just a play on my old nick 'nesta' [11:45]
ifthenmy interal grep is boken on nesta too [11:46]
nesteano worries [11:46]
ifthenwell I guess I'll read up on csup and try that.
On my username change problem it looks like the best route is to add a newuser with my preferred nick and delete the assigned one later.
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nesteawhats your 'username change problem' ? [11:49]
ifthenwant to change from assigned username to personal choice username. [11:50]
nesteaadd a user ? [11:50]
ifthenyes that seems to be the best way
useradd or user add or add user in pw
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nesteayou can just cp over any data in your current users directory and chown ir to your new user :)
adduser is probably the easiest
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ifthenI like the command line when it works [11:52]
nesteawell then
man pw
:)
I prefer using pw myself
pw useradd ... etc
pw usermod ... etc
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ifthenI thought I could use usermod to swap pw's but that was a fantasy.
well off to try things again. see you later.
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nesteaenjoy [11:57]
toddfusermod -p works on OpenBSD but I suspect thats not what you're using [11:59]
ifthentoddf I'm using freebsd here 8.1?
I notice it doesn't have vip
vi password command
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toddfvipw ? [12:00]
ifthenoops
but i did try vipw i think as i had the man in front of me
whatever it is
well back to that ever unfolding bsd man
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