toddf: yeah, when i was doing the DVD work for RandalSchwartz I was cursing FreeBSD. WTF do I need a multi-gigabyte file just to get a fixit shell? I then thought about OpenBSD's bsd.rd, and was like, "man, they did it right" BSD is dying! oh wait, wrong room. nevermind :P Yeah, nobody uses BSD these days. lol again? still! wasn't it supposed to have been dead and gone like 5 years aog? ago* uhhhh no. nesta, that's not what I keep hearing from the linux freaks yeah well... lol. nothing to say to them :] '_ ;)