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| G | up_the_irons: for what it's worth, the thing I don't like is when a whole DC goes down multiple times in a short period, and the company that are using them for their services, don't ask the hard questions or provide actual information to customers
from what I can tell, Wednesday's issue was a 10-20 minute network blip, and if I cared about anything in particular, I'd have a warm/cold backup in another datacentre | [01:40] |
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| jpalmer | overselling != overcommiting. their definition of overselling may be "we don't sell more than you ask for." and have *nothing* to do with the resources. | [06:40] |
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| vcs | lol | [07:37] |
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| G | jpalmer: I never thought of it that way
but it's definately spot on the money | [08:45] |
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| vcs | hmmm
considering upgrading to openbsd 4.9 soon oooh new pf logging this sounds sweet | [09:05] |
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| RandalSchwartz | if a log falls in a forest, and no one is there to read it, does it still use up bytes? | [09:43] |
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| baza | greetings - does anyone know how additional diskspace will be presented? I'm almost out of space and would like to buy some more | [10:56] |
| RandalSchwartz | that's a faq in the arp wiki | [10:59] |
| baza | missed it on the first go around..
does anyone know if growfs is included in the openbsd bsd.rd? I can check when I get home - no worries ha, all the google searches point back to chats here :) | [11:02] |
| RandalSchwartz | heh
that's cuz the smart folks hang out here | [11:10] |
| toddf | baza: growfs can be copied to the ramdisk and/or run from the root filesystem presuming you're not using 1 big filesystem still
todd@t41/pd ~¦8827$ grep growfs /usr/src/distrib/ramdisk/list /usr/src/distrib/amd64/common/list todd@t41/pd ~¦8828$ I'd vote that a solid 'no' on being on the ramdisk by default | [11:12] |
| baza | i do have one big partition currently
growfs sounds a bit scary too | [11:15] |
| toddf | its worked every time I've used it
but you really should have a backup of your arp vps anyway, so it should be much less scary | [11:16] |
| jdoe | don't listen to him, man. Live dangerously. | [11:18] |
| baza | yeah - not that scary - i do have a backup, but time wasted is the scary part
so - i can boot bsd.rd, mount my one large partition, copy growfs(need to check if it uses any dynamic libs) unmount then grow.. sounds like a dream | [11:18] |
| toddf | /sbin/growfs .. /bin and /sbin are statically linked
growfs doesn't adjust mbr nor disklabel for you, you'll need to do that prior to using growfs but other than that, yeah, it'll be that simple | [11:19] |
| baza | ah - but what about swap | [11:21] |
| toddf | nix it, grow a - space for swap, add swap back | [11:21] |
| baza | it's at the end of the disk, i'd have to move that as well
yeah | [11:21] |
| toddf | no data to move, so no biggie | [11:21] |
| baza | cool - i'll give it a try on a test system this weekend | [11:22] |
| RandalSchwartz | tonight I'm growing two ZFS systems in-place too
must be a "get bigger" weekend :) | [11:23] |
| baza | doesnt zfs have a flag to automatically grow | [11:23] |
| RandalSchwartz | I have to gpart resize too
requires a few minutes of downtime shutdown -p; boot from dvd; fixit shell; gpart recover ad0; gpart resize ...; reboot and zfs will be magically bigger | [11:24] |
| toddf | freebsd needs to learn about bsd.rd | [11:27] |
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| baza | one more thought - after my drive gets the new space, will disklabel automatically see the new space and put it in partition c? | [11:39] |
| toddf | in order you'll need to do the following:
- run fdisk to extend mbr partition - run disklabel - use 'b' to extend disk size from disklabel's perspective - if the c slice is not resized, use 'm c' to extend it - 'd b' - 'm a' - 'a b' - 'w' 'q' - growfs /dev/rwd0a | [11:47] |
| baza | cool, thanks! | [11:50] |
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| toddf | note that until you run growfs, you can continue to mount and boot the existing filesystem as per the old size. | [11:53] |
| baza | ok - hope to find time to test it in vmware this weekend.. then i'll order up more space, thanks for the great support | [11:58] |
| toddf | hopefully the next person finds this discussion in a search .. us fellow customers aren't always jonny on the spot, you just got lucky today ;-) | [12:01] |
| baza | put it in a FAQ | [12:02] |
| jpalmer | toddf: I think that info is in a FAQ though | [12:02] |
| baza | and i'll play the lottery
i didnt find the 'how to ' stuff - just how the new space can be presented | [12:02] |
| toddf | jpalmer: need a faqbot or something here *grin* | [12:02] |
| jpalmer | hehe | [12:02] |
| baza | i can write up my notes.. | [12:03] |
| jpalmer | actually, an infobot that only answers when addressed might not be a bad plan. with just links to the approriate FAQ. | [12:03] |
| toddf | I'd go a step further. so many questions are so commonly asked there should be a list of regexes that if seen would respond with the FAQ entry
s/the FAQ/the corresponding FAQ/ | [12:04] |
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| bharatak | ' | [12:21] |
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| mhoran | Heh. | [12:22] |
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| milki | gsoc has an infobot like that
#dbix-class@perl has one as well very useful stuff but you need to prevent abuse :P | [12:47] |
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| RandalSchwartz | yes - you can abuse the bots | [13:12] |
| milki | #perl@perl has a not very useful infobot | [13:13] |
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| Joah | hi, i was looking into arpnetworks for a VPS and i am wondering if any type of (D)DoS protection is included with your VPSes | [22:05] |
| toddf | the only thing ARP does to your packets is to limit the connection rate to port 22. you should not expect to keep your vps if you intend to be the target of (D)DoS attacks. | [22:08] |
| Joah | ok, thanks for the help | [22:08] |
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| DDevine | Whats the difference between getting slashdotted and getting DDOSed? | [22:34] |
| Olipro | a slashdotting won't hammer your port like a DDoS | [22:39] |
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| DDevine | Oh you mean specifically 22.
Or behavioural pattern? | [23:01] |
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