howdy
i submitted a question via arpnetworks.com's contact page about 2 days ago but haven't heard back; should i send an email somewhere instead?
I am in no way an authority, but up_the_irons should get back to you within 48 hours, if not, it's worth emailing support@
lteo: two days ago?  i should have replied by now, you may want to send it again
up_the_irons: ok, i will try to remember my original question ;)
sorry about that
up_the_irons: np
up_the_irons: ok, just submitted again
lteo: roger that, tnx
if you can't remember the question, it might not have been important. :)
Fetching 1892 patches....
Someone hasn't portsnap'd in a while :(
snap snap snap
I need to get my boxes on 8.2
I have 4 boxes on 8.1, and 1 on 8.2
I think the upgrade is pretty easy
no ABI incompats, right?
do you upgrade from source?
9.x will be worse
I use freebsd-update
I upgraded this one fresh using `freebsd-update`, and it was really easy
/fast
did you have ZFS on root?
that's the only monkeywrench
No :(
I seem to recall rehearsing it in a VM, and it worked fine
unlike 8.0 to 8.1, which required copying gptzfsboot again
or whatever that's called
oh right, thats' what I'm doing tomorrow morning :)
Perhaps this is a noobish question, but would it be of benefit to someone to use ZFS is they aren't using something like RAID-Z (say, single drive ~250GB)
snapshots
and full integrity
you never get a block that was written bad
of course, without raid, you can't get a good block :(
galador: I doubt any noobs need ZFS :)
but at least you never get a bad block
actually, even on a single drive, you can say "copies=2" for critical filesystems
and hope that at least one of two copies is better
also - zfs can create/destroy volumes even while the system is up, and put reserves and quotas on any of them
not sure if any other FS can do that
Hmm, well I ask because I actually don't know all that much about ZFS.  :P
really sad that the GPL prevents ZFS from being native in the linux kernel
@ nesta
so they had to invent btrfs
randal: copies=3 is safer
thing is you don't need to have all your data with that
by that rule, copies=100 would be even safer
not sure why you'd need more than copies=2
is google down?
I'm getting "invalid URL"
oh weird.  only locally
Randal: You don't know where in the disk the copy is going to fall
Randal: GPL is a bad license anyway.
It's made to be incompatible
Fortunately a few people are realising this and pushing BSD licensed stuff around.
So in due time Linux will be like Microsoft.  And BSD will be like BSD.
listen to my most recent floss weekly for my point on that
twit.tv/floss
you can skip to about 55 minutes in
interesting randal
RandalSchwartz: I've run into that myself--where someone refused a solution simply because of the forced-openness issue with integrating GPLed work.