[00:04] *** jdoe has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [00:04] *** jdoe has joined #arpnetworks [00:18] *** EhtyarWRK has quit IRC (Quit: Going!) [00:52] *** ivan-kanis has joined #arpnetworks [01:09] *** LT has joined #arpnetworks [01:10] ahhh [01:10] TGIF. [01:11] eyecue: congratulations on surviving black friday ): [01:11] *:) [01:12] muchos gracias [01:12] what a week aye [01:12] spend the latter half of today enthralled in rack and rack accessory pricing from our supplier [01:12] and trying to work out front and rear of rack configurations [01:12] up_the_irons; on a related note, ive specd and quotes the apx sx's and switched pdu's. [01:12] s/apx/apc [01:13] im currently stuck on vertical cable management for the front of our patch cabinet :| [01:20] *** ivan-kanis has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [01:21] hmmmm only a couple of minutes until I can play "Lets see how bad I can stuff up my MythTV setup" :) [01:31] *** ivan-kanis has joined #arpnetworks [01:47] azmarco: please msg me too [01:55] jesus christ i love internode. [01:55] made a plan change last night adsl1->adsl2+, rollerover is midnight tonight, and theyve already made the dslam switch [01:55] i 'knew' my IRC messages were downloading faster tonight :D [02:00] eyecue: wow, thats fast [02:00] internode are oarsome [02:00] seriously [02:00] i was loading up apc.com and though to myself *hell thats quick* [02:00] eyecue: when I was in Brisbane internode didn't have any equipment in my exchange [02:00] did a speed check and realised i was getting 600k/sec [02:00] yeh me too [02:00] eyecue: Roma Street exchange? [02:00] and im only on their easy reach (telstra wholesale dslam) [02:01] my current exchange is in build for node dslam [02:01] few weeks i might be able to switch again :) [02:01] I had to go w/ TPG in Brisbane, they were okay, but half the battle was getting the phone connected in the first place [02:02] gah, flaky internets [02:02] :| [02:02] I was originally going to go via iiNet, but they couldn't get Telstra to connect the phone [02:02] honestly, i cant ever recommend anyone other than node [02:02] ive been on dsl1 for 2 years coz i lov enode so much [02:02] eyecue: yeah, I know plenty of people that love them [02:03] so the last plan i was on (yesterday) was dsl1 40gb, upstream only [02:03] for 69.95 [02:03] $20 for 100GB? [02:03] :P [02:03] current plan, adsl2+ 60gb, upstram only (including power pack for 10/mo) for 59.95 [02:03] :) [02:03] so same price [02:03] WIN! [02:04] don't you mean $10 cheaper? [02:04] well, the 59.95 counts uploads/downloads [02:04] you pay 10 bucks more, it counts down only [02:04] and you get a stat ip [02:05] eyecue: for comparison to NZ... [02:05] We pay ~65NZD for ADSL1 (at 2mbit/s), 30GB/mo [02:06] ~50 AUD [02:07] hmm [02:07] gah [02:07] ! [02:07] and you have translatlantic traffic [02:07] fail :) [02:09] next month, we'll be paying a combined 105 for phone + broadband you can take about $50 off that to take away the phone component, so ~55NZD, for ADSL1 (2mbps) & 40GB [02:10] oh noice [02:10] 2mbps is because I live 5km from the exchange :) [02:10] ahh [02:10] im pretty close [02:11] oh wait, it's only 45 for the home phone, so ~60NZD for the Broadband [02:12] so it seems that NZ is cheaper than Telstra wholesale plans? [02:12] possibly, ish [02:12] my prev plan was grandfathered 2 years ago [02:12] you get downstream only counted ? [02:13] nope, most ISPs count both directions [02:13] eyecue: but I'm going to be laughing soon [02:13] ive only ever been on down onlies [02:13] eyecue: next month (I think) the Rural Broadband Initiative goes live, and if what Telecom has told me on Twitter is true... I should be able to get Fibre to the Door pretty quickly [02:14] oh nice [02:14] :] [02:14] people that have Fibre running past their property in the RBI areas, can get FTTH [02:15] and Telecom happen to run a lot of their Exchange/National backhaul fibre alongside/through our property [02:15] sexy as :) [02:16] heck, we aren't allowed to dig in parts of our property without consulting Telecom [02:17] but meh, it'll be all worth it if we can really get Fibre to the Door :) [02:20] and it'll be much better than the 5Mbps wireless access promised to everyone else :P [02:35] eyecue: for what it's worth, I'm still jealous of the NBN :) [02:36] yeh, its pretty sexy :] [02:59] they keep promising FTTH in the UK too [03:00] FTTC is starting to catch on here, but of course you only get ~40mbit/s with that (and still the same crappy upload) [03:01] bob^^: FTTC+VDSL? [03:01] bob^^: is the C in UK Curb or Cabinet? [03:03] *** milki has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [03:06] cabinet here, G [03:06] in areas which are FTTC enabled there's a large street cabinet every few streets in residential areas [03:06] then VDSL to homes [03:07] bob^^: yep, was just checking, because there is also Fibre to the Curb [03:07] yeah [03:07] i think that's a US thing? [03:07] Australia has it as well [03:07] mainly in Canberra [03:08] this is our only FTTC atm: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BT_Infinity [03:09] the criticism that wikipedia lists is correct; there are a lot of complaints here about the street cabinets [03:09] they are *huge* [03:09] the town i live in is 500 years old; they look *very* out of place and ugly :( [03:11] bob^^: http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/chorus-half-way-through-fibre-roll-out-now-comes-hard-bit-122413 is what NZ has for cabinets [03:16] G: look about the same as the ones we have - ours are just the same but taller :) [03:16] http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/193/050ea.jpg/ [03:17] oh, they look like the old style ones here [03:17] these new Telecom cabinets here and a nice shade of green [03:17] *are a [03:17] hehe [03:18] all of the street cabinets (even the old small voice ones) here are about the same shade of green [03:18] that's just so they can say they are going green [03:18] hehe [03:18] in fact, if I was building a house, I'd actually paint the outside in the same Green :) [03:19] outside or roof [03:19] ours have been the same shade of green forever :) [03:19] depending [03:19] toddf: the shade of green in bob's picture is pretty much standard in UK based countries I think :) [03:19] toddf: but NZ has chosen a newer darker green :) [03:20] darker would be better, less obvious :) [03:20] bob^^: you can kinda tell the shade of green in the picture I sent [03:20] yeah [03:21] defintely a little darker than ours [03:21] the new cabs here are quite noisy too [03:21] especially in warm weather when they have to turn on the ventilation systems [03:21] bob^^: old style cabinet: http://chillingsilence.wordpress.com/2009/11/21/telecom-geek-exchange-tour-2009/sdc10908/ [03:22] new style: http://chillingsilence.wordpress.com/2009/11/21/telecom-geek-exchange-tour-2009/sdc10909/ [03:22] yeah they're very similar to our old cabinets [03:22] apparently the new ones are really really really quite [03:22] i hope so [03:22] hence why they are called either Single or Double Bay Whisper Cabinets [03:22] the ones here are really bad [03:23] if i lived beside one i would be complaining to BT [04:13] *** nbari|away has joined #arpnetworks [04:17] *** milki has joined #arpnetworks [04:37] *** nbari|away has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [04:43] *** nbari|away has joined #arpnetworks [04:48] *** nbari|away has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [04:48] *** nbari|away has joined #arpnetworks [05:02] *** ivan-kanis has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [05:12] yup. zxfer rocks [05:13] mabel.insightcruises.com is now replicated to a box in texas, including all the snapshots! [05:15] hmmmm anyone else noticing IPv6 packet loss? [05:16] ahhh actually, might be at he.net [05:16] i'll check now [05:17] seems ok here [05:17] ahhh yeah, it's the tunnel server at he.net [05:18] ahh :( [05:18] i was going via genuine he.net v6 transit from london :) [05:18] mtr from my arp box to my tunnels IP, = packet loss at the tserv, mtr from home to arp box, = packetloss at the router after the tserv [05:19] gotta love mtr :) [05:19] mtr is a great little tool :) [05:22] *** nbari|away is now known as nbari [05:23] *** nbari is now known as nbari|away [05:26] *** ivan-kanis has joined #arpnetworks [06:33] *** ziyourenxiang has joined #arpnetworks [06:49] *** ziyourenxiang has quit IRC (Quit: ziyourenxiang) [07:49] *** fink has joined #arpnetworks [07:56] *** fink has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [07:57] *** fink has joined #arpnetworks [08:37] *** doos has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) [08:49] *** ivan-kanis has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [08:49] *** LT has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [09:04] *** doos has joined #arpnetworks [09:11] *** doos has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [09:23] *** doos has joined #arpnetworks [09:44] *** cubelogic has joined #arpnetworks [09:51] *** HighJinx has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) [09:52] *** ivan-kanis has joined #arpnetworks [10:26] *** HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks [10:42] *** fink has quit IRC (Quit: fink) [11:37] *** mtve has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [11:42] *** doos has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [11:54] *** doos has joined #arpnetworks [12:02] *** doos has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [12:02] *** doos has joined #arpnetworks [13:24] *** tuvwx has joined #arpnetworks [13:40] *** ivan-kanis has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [13:40] *** eyecue has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) [13:47] *** mtve has joined #arpnetworks [15:18] *** Ehtyar1 has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [16:29] *** nbari|away is now known as nbari [16:30] *** nbari has left [17:14] my CIDR report is now squeaky clean: http://www.cidr-report.org/cgi-bin/as-report?as=AS25795&view=2.0 [17:14] 100% aggregation [17:25] *** dxtr has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.4) [18:07] *** dxtr has joined #arpnetworks [18:08] *** cubelogic has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) [18:16] *** eyecue has joined #arpnetworks [18:24] *** koobs has joined #arpnetworks [18:25] *** eyecue has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [18:44] *** HighJinx has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [18:48] *** vcs has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) [19:03] now if we could just get the rest of the internet to do that.... [19:06] * up_the_irons nods [19:29] moin [19:29] :] [19:29] up_the_irons; where do you put your switches in your racks? front back, middle top ? [19:31] koobs: back top [19:31] in the server cabs? [19:31] and you trunk cables off to the side then down the vert rail ? [19:32] im looking over various schools of though about equipment layout [19:33] koobs: yes, server cabs [19:33] koobs: with 4x pdu's per cab, i don't have room for vertical wire managers, so i don't trunk them off to the side [19:33] ive seen some pretty good comments around rear middle positioning, for shorter cable runs and visibility (dont have to get up on a ladder) [19:33] just straight down and velcro'd nicely [19:33] ah ok [19:34] and youve got the 1070's iirc yeh ? [19:34] yeah [19:34] side to side fans for the switches then ? [19:36] whatever the switch supports [19:36] oo procurves have a modular fan assembly [19:38] *** CRowen has quit IRC (Quit: changing servers) [19:40] *** CRowen has joined #arpnetworks [20:12] *** Ehtyar has joined #arpnetworks [20:14] *** HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks [20:15] *** EhtyarWRK has joined #arpnetworks [20:35] and up_the_irons, does your toilet paper come off the front, or near the wall? :) [20:37] * RandalSchwartz wanders off to bed aboard this rocky ship... [20:44] *** koobs has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [20:51] *** eyecue has joined #arpnetworks [22:55] Hi, can I request for a reset back factory default on my VPS? I already emailed support a few hours ago but as of this moment I dont get a reply. [23:23] RandalSchwartz: LOL [23:27] atmark: it should be done shortly [23:30] *** atmark has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)