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TGIF. G: eyecue: congratulations on surviving black friday ):
*:) eyecue: muchos gracias
what a week aye
spend the latter half of today enthralled in rack and rack accessory pricing from our supplier
and trying to work out front and rear of rack configurations
up_the_irons; on a related note, ive specd and quotes the apx sx's and switched pdu's.
s/apx/apc
im currently stuck on vertical cable management for the front of our patch cabinet :| ***: ivan-kanis has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) G: hmmmm only a couple of minutes until I can play "Lets see how bad I can stuff up my MythTV setup" :) ***: ivan-kanis has joined #arpnetworks DaCa: azmarco: please msg me too eyecue: jesus christ i love internode.
made a plan change last night adsl1->adsl2+, rollerover is midnight tonight, and theyve already made the dslam switch
i 'knew' my IRC messages were downloading faster tonight :D G: eyecue: wow, thats fast eyecue: internode are oarsome
seriously
i was loading up apc.com and though to myself *hell thats quick* G: eyecue: when I was in Brisbane internode didn't have any equipment in my exchange eyecue: did a speed check and realised i was getting 600k/sec
yeh me too G: eyecue: Roma Street exchange? eyecue: and im only on their easy reach (telstra wholesale dslam)
my current exchange is in build for node dslam
few weeks i might be able to switch again :) G: I had to go w/ TPG in Brisbane, they were okay, but half the battle was getting the phone connected in the first place eyecue: gah, flaky internets
:| G: I was originally going to go via iiNet, but they couldn't get Telstra to connect the phone eyecue: honestly, i cant ever recommend anyone other than node
ive been on dsl1 for 2 years coz i lov enode so much G: eyecue: yeah, I know plenty of people that love them eyecue: so the last plan i was on (yesterday) was dsl1 40gb, upstream only
for 69.95 G: $20 for 100GB?
:P eyecue: current plan, adsl2+ 60gb, upstram only (including power pack for 10/mo) for 59.95
:)
so same price
WIN! G: don't you mean $10 cheaper? eyecue: well, the 59.95 counts uploads/downloads
you pay 10 bucks more, it counts down only
and you get a stat ip G: eyecue: for comparison to NZ...
We pay ~65NZD for ADSL1 (at 2mbit/s), 30GB/mo
~50 AUD eyecue: hmm
gah
!
and you have translatlantic traffic
fail :) G: next month, we'll be paying a combined 105 for phone + broadband you can take about $50 off that to take away the phone component, so ~55NZD, for ADSL1 (2mbps) & 40GB eyecue: oh noice G: 2mbps is because I live 5km from the exchange :) eyecue: ahh
im pretty close G: oh wait, it's only 45 for the home phone, so ~60NZD for the Broadband
so it seems that NZ is cheaper than Telstra wholesale plans? eyecue: possibly, ish
my prev plan was grandfathered 2 years ago
you get downstream only counted ? G: nope, most ISPs count both directions
eyecue: but I'm going to be laughing soon eyecue: ive only ever been on down onlies G: eyecue: next month (I think) the Rural Broadband Initiative goes live, and if what Telecom has told me on Twitter is true... I should be able to get Fibre to the Door pretty quickly eyecue: oh nice
:] G: people that have Fibre running past their property in the RBI areas, can get FTTH
and Telecom happen to run a lot of their Exchange/National backhaul fibre alongside/through our property eyecue: sexy as :) G: heck, we aren't allowed to dig in parts of our property without consulting Telecom
but meh, it'll be all worth it if we can really get Fibre to the Door :)
and it'll be much better than the 5Mbps wireless access promised to everyone else :P
eyecue: for what it's worth, I'm still jealous of the NBN :) eyecue: yeh, its pretty sexy :] bob^^: they keep promising FTTH in the UK too
FTTC is starting to catch on here, but of course you only get ~40mbit/s with that (and still the same crappy upload) G: bob^^: FTTC+VDSL?
bob^^: is the C in UK Curb or Cabinet? ***: milki has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) bob^^: cabinet here, G
in areas which are FTTC enabled there's a large street cabinet every few streets in residential areas
then VDSL to homes G: bob^^: yep, was just checking, because there is also Fibre to the Curb bob^^: yeah
i think that's a US thing? G: Australia has it as well
mainly in Canberra bob^^: this is our only FTTC atm: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BT_Infinity
the criticism that wikipedia lists is correct; there are a lot of complaints here about the street cabinets
they are *huge*
the town i live in is 500 years old; they look *very* out of place and ugly :( G: bob^^: http://www.nbr.co.nz/article/chorus-half-way-through-fibre-roll-out-now-comes-hard-bit-122413 is what NZ has for cabinets bob^^: G: look about the same as the ones we have - ours are just the same but taller :)
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/193/050ea.jpg/ G: oh, they look like the old style ones here
these new Telecom cabinets here and a nice shade of green
*are a bob^^: hehe
all of the street cabinets (even the old small voice ones) here are about the same shade of green toddf: that's just so they can say they are going green bob^^: hehe G: in fact, if I was building a house, I'd actually paint the outside in the same Green :)
outside or roof bob^^: ours have been the same shade of green forever :) G: depending
toddf: the shade of green in bob's picture is pretty much standard in UK based countries I think :)
toddf: but NZ has chosen a newer darker green :) bob^^: darker would be better, less obvious :) G: bob^^: you can kinda tell the shade of green in the picture I sent bob^^: yeah
defintely a little darker than ours
the new cabs here are quite noisy too
especially in warm weather when they have to turn on the ventilation systems G: bob^^: old style cabinet: http://chillingsilence.wordpress.com/2009/11/21/telecom-geek-exchange-tour-2009/sdc10908/
new style: http://chillingsilence.wordpress.com/2009/11/21/telecom-geek-exchange-tour-2009/sdc10909/ bob^^: yeah they're very similar to our old cabinets G: apparently the new ones are really really really quite bob^^: i hope so G: hence why they are called either Single or Double Bay Whisper Cabinets bob^^: the ones here are really bad
if i lived beside one i would be complaining to BT ***: nbari|away has joined #arpnetworks
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ivan-kanis has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) RandalSchwartz: yup. zxfer rocks
mabel.insightcruises.com is now replicated to a box in texas, including all the snapshots! G: hmmmm anyone else noticing IPv6 packet loss?
ahhh actually, might be at he.net bob^^: i'll check now
seems ok here G: ahhh yeah, it's the tunnel server at he.net bob^^: ahh :(
i was going via genuine he.net v6 transit from london :) G: mtr from my arp box to my tunnels IP, = packet loss at the tserv, mtr from home to arp box, = packetloss at the router after the tserv
gotta love mtr :) bob^^: mtr is a great little tool :) ***: nbari|away is now known as nbari
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nbari has left up_the_irons: my CIDR report is now squeaky clean: http://www.cidr-report.org/cgi-bin/as-report?as=AS25795&view=2.0
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vcs has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) pilgrimd: now if we could just get the rest of the internet to do that.... -: up_the_irons nods koobs: moin
:]
up_the_irons; where do you put your switches in your racks? front back, middle top ? up_the_irons: koobs: back top koobs: in the server cabs?
and you trunk cables off to the side then down the vert rail ?
im looking over various schools of though about equipment layout up_the_irons: koobs: yes, server cabs
koobs: with 4x pdu's per cab, i don't have room for vertical wire managers, so i don't trunk them off to the side koobs: ive seen some pretty good comments around rear middle positioning, for shorter cable runs and visibility (dont have to get up on a ladder) up_the_irons: just straight down and velcro'd nicely koobs: ah ok
and youve got the 1070's iirc yeh ? up_the_irons: yeah koobs: side to side fans for the switches then ? up_the_irons: whatever the switch supports koobs: oo procurves have a modular fan assembly ***: CRowen has quit IRC (Quit: changing servers)
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EhtyarWRK has joined #arpnetworks RandalSchwartz: and up_the_irons, does your toilet paper come off the front, or near the wall? :) -: RandalSchwartz wanders off to bed aboard this rocky ship... ***: koobs has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
eyecue has joined #arpnetworks atmark: Hi, can I request for a reset back factory default on my VPS? I already emailed support a few hours ago but as of this moment I dont get a reply. up_the_irons: RandalSchwartz: LOL
atmark: it should be done shortly ***: atmark has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)