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raphidae has joined #arpnetworks raphidae: Hi, I have an issue with a bot in one of your ipv6 blocks
anyone available for that? RandalSchwartz: I think abuse@arpnetworks.com is how to handle that raphidae: it's not abuse RandalSchwartz: if that bounces, I know support@ works
if it's not abuse, why should the ISP care?
look up the customer, and contact them directly raphidae: it's public information? RandalSchwartz: of course
the v6 delegations are there raphidae: not delegated
2607:f2f8:ad00::26 RandalSchwartz: ahh - I see the v6 delegations aren't installed. Garry is bad today. :)
email support@ to get the customer then. raphidae: okay, thanks RandalSchwartz: and I'll have to nudge him to get the v6 delegations installed
because yes, in theory, the v6 delegations *are* public record toddf: randalschwartz: feel free to add my name to the list of interested parties in your 'nudge' ;-) RandalSchwartz: thanks
it's probably just a lot of paperwork
but it'll definitely become more necessary as we finish v6 entry
and it'll prevent confusion like just now toddf: somehow I thought whois records were maintained. must have mis remembered. LT: think it's only for v4 delegations over a certain size RandalSchwartz: yeah - I know I have a whois delegation, because I have a /28
I think that's the cutoff toddf: 2010/02/21/freenode-#arpnetworks:172540 < jlgaddis> a /29 or larger is supposed to be SWIP'd to the end user/customer, however RandalSchwartz: there ya go
I wonder what it is for v6
clearly not /29, or the entire net would have one whois :)
(only true for comic effect) raphidae: /64 and up I assume RandalSchwartz: 64 is just a segment raphidae: or down rather ;) RandalSchwartz: I presume you mean /56 or so
which is logically the smallest to assign to a customer
unless you know the customer is only a single segment ever raphidae: hmm, could be toddf: he.net assigns a /64 only by default, have to 'request' the /48 to be allocated RandalSchwartz: here it'd be /48 :) raphidae: there are isps handing out 64's tho RandalSchwartz: those isps are presuming a single segment then
if not, they don't get the vast size of v6 space
/48s should be given out like candy, free for the asking toddf: those preparing for / wanting whois swip'ed for v6 may wish to be sure the 'right' info is ready to be published: http://support.arpnetworks.com/faqs/main/how-do-i-change-what-appears-in-arins-whois-for-my-ip-block raphidae: that's exactly how they treated the ipv4 space in the past
look how that turned out ;) RandalSchwartz: not the same scale at all
unless you think we're trying not to run out in ten billion years raphidae: if in 20 years we will want to address billions of nanobots it'll be drama all over again RandalSchwartz: because that's how long it'll take if you gave every current ipv4 holder a /32
because that's how many there are. :)
so I think "every isp gets a /32, and hands out /48 to each customer" is *quite* viable
and still leaves us with 1000 years of addressing raphidae: exactly what the train of thought was for ipv4 RandalSchwartz: but with a lot fewer bits -: toddf wonders what this does to the addressing scheme if we start addressing celstial objects and galactic networks and other habitated planets greenskeleton: if we start living longer than that it might be tedious to learn yet another addressing system RandalSchwartz: by then we'll all be using holo-addressing anyway
who needs numbers when you have direct neuron communication greenskeleton: should solve the problem of relative time raphidae: ipv12 could be qubits ;) ***: ivan-kanis has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) toddf: https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#six55
I think there is a typo. "the assigning organization is responsible" seems like it would make more sense if it said "the assigned organization is responsible" since the organization making the assignments is already responsible. heh. ***: LT has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)
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ivan-kanis has joined #arpnetworks RandalSchwartz: working on a nice freebsd zfs send/recv remote cloning tool
if this works the way I hope, I can start mirroring my ARP filesystems to texas for BCP twobitha1ker: Cool, I've been planning to set up something like that for doing backups of my remote systems to my storage box at home toddf: be careful. remote mirroring in realtime means remote mirroring of rm operations in realtime. RandalSchwartz: I'm also mirroring the snapshots toddf: ;-) RandalSchwartz: so the remotes will be as reliable as the locals toddf: you and your zfs snapshots.
someone needs to write a zfs alike filesystem that isn't gpl that isn't memory or cpu intensive. 'useable by mere mortals and all systems'. reardencode: maybe btrfs some day RandalSchwartz: see "not gpl" reardencode: oh right. jpalmer: one day, I'll probably jump on this zfs bandwagon. that'll probably be about the same tiem that zfs is the default FS ona standard freebsd install. RandalSchwartz: it's selectable on PCBSD now mike-burns: I'd also, for once, like a programming language to come with a doesItHalt function that takes a function and produces a boolean. Also not GPL. reardencode: I don't think you can get away from CPU intensive if you want COW and reliability of ZFS -- can get away from memory intensive by carefully designed trees maybe toddf: the day zfs becomes standard for freebsd is the day freebsd stops running on lower end systems. RandalSchwartz: and you can use PCBSD to install a "straight" freebsd toddf: I'll take donations of all the freebsd boxen that won't run freebsd then. ;-)
reardencode: I wouldn't know. but I also know that 256mb is not a recommended size for a filesystem such as zfs, and if the filesystem requires that much, its way too much of a pig for me. reardencode: toddf: agreed, I switched back to UFS when I moved to ARP. ***: robotarm_ has joined #arpnetworks
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ivan-kanis has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) RandalSchwartz: cool - got my script just about working
ran into trouble trying to use zfs send -R, so now I'm doing the recursion by hand ***: buraglio has joined #arpnetworks
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my new account was enabled within an hour instead of 24-48, so I'm happy so far. ***: jnnkn has quit IRC () Dinosaur: hello? RandalSchwartz: normal answer. 24-48 hours. :)
but also possible sooner
eventually, that'll be automated -: Dinosaur rubs his eyes. Dinosaur: Is that you?
Really you?
of Perl fame? RandalSchwartz: indeed
I'm an ARP customer Dinosaur: sorry we didn't meet before. RandalSchwartz: your name sounds familiar Dinosaur: I'm wondering how to do VPN over ssh to get into my server. RandalSchwartz: have you uploaded your ssh key? Dinosaur: yes, it should be. I'll tell you why in privmsg. RandalSchwartz: ... http://www.arpnetworks.com/vps/management-console
then hit "t" and follow the instructions Dinosaur: thanks Randal. RandalSchwartz: and from your control panel, you can upload the ssh key
instructions are tehre. -: RandalSchwartz wanders off ***: Dinosaur has left fink: what's PERL? mike-burns: Long ago, in a Web bubble far, far away ... pjs: hah
anyone have second network interfaces on their VPS? just seems like the easiest way to create a small blocked off internal network without having to actually build a gateway/nat box
well, easiest in terms of firewalling.. :) I can just skip a second interface instead of adding a bunch of special rules for special situations lol ***: Nat_UB has joined #arpnetworks fink: pjs: i use vlan interfaces for internal jails pjs: fink, ah nice.. and these can be used normally in pf? fink: yea
just like any other int pjs: awesome fink: unless you need carp/altq
but it's not usually an issue, you can workaround it jlgaddis: hey randal, what's your website again about the cruises? pjs: naw, I don't.. just want to make it easy on my firewall rules :) ***: Dinosaur has joined #arpnetworks
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fink has joined #arpnetworks greenskeleton: jlgaddis: http://www.insightcruises.com/ jlgaddis: gracias ***: fink has quit IRC (Quit: fink)
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cubelogic has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) fink: RandalSchwartz: how was your upgrade to 8.2? ***: robotarmy has joined #arpnetworks
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