[00:25] *** ivan-kanis has joined #arpnetworks [01:10] *** LT has joined #arpnetworks [01:59] *** cromartie-x182 has joined #arpnetworks [01:59] *** cromartie-x182 has left [02:28] *** Ehtyar has joined #arpnetworks [02:51] *** ivan-kanis has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [02:57] *** DaCa has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) [03:02] *** milki has quit IRC (Read error: Operation timed out) [03:21] *** ivan-kanis has joined #arpnetworks [04:16] *** milki has joined #arpnetworks [05:17] *** ivan-kanis has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [06:43] *** ivan-kanis has joined #arpnetworks [06:44] *** raphidae has joined #arpnetworks [06:45] Hi, I have an issue with a bot in one of your ipv6 blocks [06:45] anyone available for that? [06:45] I think abuse@arpnetworks.com is how to handle that [06:46] it's not abuse [06:46] if that bounces, I know support@ works [06:47] if it's not abuse, why should the ISP care? [06:47] look up the customer, and contact them directly [06:48] it's public information? [06:48] of course [06:48] the v6 delegations are there [06:48] not delegated [06:49] 2607:f2f8:ad00::26 [06:49] ahh - I see the v6 delegations aren't installed. Garry is bad today. :) [06:50] email support@ to get the customer then. [06:50] okay, thanks [06:50] and I'll have to nudge him to get the v6 delegations installed [06:51] because yes, in theory, the v6 delegations *are* public record [06:54] randalschwartz: feel free to add my name to the list of interested parties in your 'nudge' ;-) [06:54] thanks [06:55] it's probably just a lot of paperwork [06:55] but it'll definitely become more necessary as we finish v6 entry [06:55] and it'll prevent confusion like just now [06:56] somehow I thought whois records were maintained. must have mis remembered. [06:57] think it's only for v4 delegations over a certain size [06:57] yeah - I know I have a whois delegation, because I have a /28 [06:57] I think that's the cutoff [06:58] 2010/02/21/freenode-#arpnetworks:172540 < jlgaddis> a /29 or larger is supposed to be SWIP'd to the end user/customer, however [06:58] there ya go [06:58] I wonder what it is for v6 [06:59] clearly not /29, or the entire net would have one whois :) [06:59] (only true for comic effect) [06:59] /64 and up I assume [07:00] 64 is just a segment [07:00] or down rather ;) [07:00] I presume you mean /56 or so [07:00] which is logically the smallest to assign to a customer [07:00] unless you know the customer is only a single segment ever [07:00] hmm, could be [07:00] he.net assigns a /64 only by default, have to 'request' the /48 to be allocated [07:00] here it'd be /48 :) [07:00] there are isps handing out 64's tho [07:01] those isps are presuming a single segment then [07:01] if not, they don't get the vast size of v6 space [07:01] /48s should be given out like candy, free for the asking [07:02] those preparing for / wanting whois swip'ed for v6 may wish to be sure the 'right' info is ready to be published: http://support.arpnetworks.com/faqs/main/how-do-i-change-what-appears-in-arins-whois-for-my-ip-block [07:02] that's exactly how they treated the ipv4 space in the past [07:02] look how that turned out ;) [07:02] not the same scale at all [07:02] unless you think we're trying not to run out in ten billion years [07:02] if in 20 years we will want to address billions of nanobots it'll be drama all over again [07:03] because that's how long it'll take if you gave every current ipv4 holder a /32 [07:03] because that's how many there are. :) [07:03] so I think "every isp gets a /32, and hands out /48 to each customer" is *quite* viable [07:03] and still leaves us with 1000 years of addressing [07:04] exactly what the train of thought was for ipv4 [07:04] but with a lot fewer bits [07:04] * toddf wonders what this does to the addressing scheme if we start addressing celstial objects and galactic networks and other habitated planets [07:04] if we start living longer than that it might be tedious to learn yet another addressing system [07:04] by then we'll all be using holo-addressing anyway [07:04] who needs numbers when you have direct neuron communication [07:05] should solve the problem of relative time [07:05] ipv12 could be qubits ;) [07:05] *** ivan-kanis has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [07:09] https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#six55 [07:10] I think there is a typo. "the assigning organization is responsible" seems like it would make more sense if it said "the assigned organization is responsible" since the organization making the assignments is already responsible. heh. [08:46] *** LT has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [08:53] *** ziyourenxiang has joined #arpnetworks [09:21] *** ziyourenxiang_ has joined #arpnetworks [09:23] *** ziyourenxiang_ has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) [09:23] *** ziyourenxiang_ has joined #arpnetworks [09:25] *** ziyourenxiang has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) [09:25] *** ziyourenxiang_ is now known as ziyourenxiang [09:28] *** ziyourenxiang has quit IRC (Quit: ziyourenxiang) [09:51] *** HighJinx has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) [10:25] *** HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks [10:44] *** mattx86 has joined #arpnetworks [11:02] *** ivan-kanis has joined #arpnetworks [11:20] working on a nice freebsd zfs send/recv remote cloning tool [11:21] if this works the way I hope, I can start mirroring my ARP filesystems to texas for BCP [11:24] Cool, I've been planning to set up something like that for doing backups of my remote systems to my storage box at home [11:27] be careful. remote mirroring in realtime means remote mirroring of rm operations in realtime. [11:28] I'm also mirroring the snapshots [11:28] ;-) [11:28] so the remotes will be as reliable as the locals [11:28] you and your zfs snapshots. [11:29] someone needs to write a zfs alike filesystem that isn't gpl that isn't memory or cpu intensive. 'useable by mere mortals and all systems'. [11:29] maybe btrfs some day [11:29] see "not gpl" [11:29] oh right. [11:30] one day, I'll probably jump on this zfs bandwagon. that'll probably be about the same tiem that zfs is the default FS ona standard freebsd install. [11:30] it's selectable on PCBSD now [11:30] I'd also, for once, like a programming language to come with a doesItHalt function that takes a function and produces a boolean. Also not GPL. [11:30] I don't think you can get away from CPU intensive if you want COW and reliability of ZFS -- can get away from memory intensive by carefully designed trees maybe [11:30] the day zfs becomes standard for freebsd is the day freebsd stops running on lower end systems. [11:30] and you can use PCBSD to install a "straight" freebsd [11:30] I'll take donations of all the freebsd boxen that won't run freebsd then. ;-) [11:33] reardencode: I wouldn't know. but I also know that 256mb is not a recommended size for a filesystem such as zfs, and if the filesystem requires that much, its way too much of a pig for me. [11:36] toddf: agreed, I switched back to UFS when I moved to ARP. [12:05] *** robotarm_ has joined #arpnetworks [12:55] *** fink has joined #arpnetworks [13:01] *** robotarm_ has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [13:13] *** cubelogic has joined #arpnetworks [13:23] *** ivan-kanis has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) [13:49] cool - got my script just about working [13:50] ran into trouble trying to use zfs send -R, so now I'm doing the recursion by hand [14:02] *** buraglio has joined #arpnetworks [14:25] *** Dinosaur has joined #arpnetworks [14:25] hi, how long does it usually take to get a new "cdrom" installed? [14:25] my new account was enabled within an hour instead of 24-48, so I'm happy so far. [14:34] *** jnnkn has quit IRC () [14:35] hello? [14:36] normal answer. 24-48 hours. :) [14:36] but also possible sooner [14:36] eventually, that'll be automated [14:39] * Dinosaur rubs his eyes. [14:39] Is that you? [14:39] Really you? [14:39] of Perl fame? [14:40] indeed [14:40] I'm an ARP customer [14:40] sorry we didn't meet before. [14:41] your name sounds familiar [14:41] I'm wondering how to do VPN over ssh to get into my server. [14:41] have you uploaded your ssh key? [14:41] yes, it should be. I'll tell you why in privmsg. [14:43] ... http://www.arpnetworks.com/vps/management-console [14:43] then hit "t" and follow the instructions [14:45] thanks Randal. [14:45] and from your control panel, you can upload the ssh key [14:45] instructions are tehre. [14:53] * RandalSchwartz wanders off [14:53] *** Dinosaur has left [14:55] what's PERL? [14:58] Long ago, in a Web bubble far, far away ... [14:58] hah [15:00] anyone have second network interfaces on their VPS? just seems like the easiest way to create a small blocked off internal network without having to actually build a gateway/nat box [15:01] well, easiest in terms of firewalling.. :) I can just skip a second interface instead of adding a bunch of special rules for special situations lol [15:02] *** Nat_UB has joined #arpnetworks [15:04] pjs: i use vlan interfaces for internal jails [15:08] fink, ah nice.. and these can be used normally in pf? [15:08] yea [15:08] just like any other int [15:08] awesome [15:11] unless you need carp/altq [15:12] but it's not usually an issue, you can workaround it [15:12] hey randal, what's your website again about the cruises? [15:12] naw, I don't.. just want to make it easy on my firewall rules :) [15:16] *** Dinosaur has joined #arpnetworks [15:27] *** fink has quit IRC (Quit: fink) [16:40] *** fink has joined #arpnetworks [17:16] jlgaddis: http://www.insightcruises.com/ [17:26] gracias [17:53] *** fink has quit IRC (Quit: fink) [17:56] *** fink has joined #arpnetworks [18:11] jlgaddis - hanging out with Neil now [18:12] *** HighJinx has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) [18:29] *** cubelogic has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) [18:35] RandalSchwartz: how was your upgrade to 8.2? [18:39] *** robotarmy has joined #arpnetworks [18:46] *** ziyourenxiang has joined #arpnetworks [19:00] OpenBSD is now running at 4.9, thanks to Todd Fries for documenting the mpbios issue. [19:13] RandalSchwartz: ping? [19:50] *** ziyourenxiang has quit IRC (Quit: ziyourenxiang) [19:53] *** HighJinx has joined #arpnetworks [19:54] *** heavysixer has quit IRC (Quit: BAMPF!) 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