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raphidae | Hi, I have an issue with a bot in one of your ipv6 blocks
anyone available for that? | [06:45] |
RandalSchwartz | I think abuse@arpnetworks.com is how to handle that | [06:45] |
raphidae | it's not abuse | [06:46] |
RandalSchwartz | if that bounces, I know support@ works
if it's not abuse, why should the ISP care? look up the customer, and contact them directly | [06:46] |
raphidae | it's public information? | [06:48] |
RandalSchwartz | of course
the v6 delegations are there | [06:48] |
raphidae | not delegated
2607:f2f8:ad00::26 | [06:48] |
RandalSchwartz | ahh - I see the v6 delegations aren't installed. Garry is bad today. :)
email support@ to get the customer then. | [06:49] |
raphidae | okay, thanks | [06:50] |
RandalSchwartz | and I'll have to nudge him to get the v6 delegations installed
because yes, in theory, the v6 delegations *are* public record | [06:50] |
toddf | randalschwartz: feel free to add my name to the list of interested parties in your 'nudge' ;-) | [06:54] |
RandalSchwartz | thanks
it's probably just a lot of paperwork but it'll definitely become more necessary as we finish v6 entry and it'll prevent confusion like just now | [06:54] |
toddf | somehow I thought whois records were maintained. must have mis remembered. | [06:56] |
LT | think it's only for v4 delegations over a certain size | [06:57] |
RandalSchwartz | yeah - I know I have a whois delegation, because I have a /28
I think that's the cutoff | [06:57] |
toddf | 2010/02/21/freenode-#arpnetworks:172540 < jlgaddis> a /29 or larger is supposed to be SWIP'd to the end user/customer, however | [06:58] |
RandalSchwartz | there ya go
I wonder what it is for v6 clearly not /29, or the entire net would have one whois :) (only true for comic effect) | [06:58] |
raphidae | /64 and up I assume | [06:59] |
RandalSchwartz | 64 is just a segment | [07:00] |
raphidae | or down rather ;) | [07:00] |
RandalSchwartz | I presume you mean /56 or so
which is logically the smallest to assign to a customer unless you know the customer is only a single segment ever | [07:00] |
raphidae | hmm, could be | [07:00] |
toddf | he.net assigns a /64 only by default, have to 'request' the /48 to be allocated | [07:00] |
RandalSchwartz | here it'd be /48 :) | [07:00] |
raphidae | there are isps handing out 64's tho | [07:00] |
RandalSchwartz | those isps are presuming a single segment then
if not, they don't get the vast size of v6 space /48s should be given out like candy, free for the asking | [07:01] |
toddf | those preparing for / wanting whois swip'ed for v6 may wish to be sure the 'right' info is ready to be published: http://support.arpnetworks.com/faqs/main/how-do-i-change-what-appears-in-arins-whois-for-my-ip-block | [07:02] |
raphidae | that's exactly how they treated the ipv4 space in the past
look how that turned out ;) | [07:02] |
RandalSchwartz | not the same scale at all
unless you think we're trying not to run out in ten billion years | [07:02] |
raphidae | if in 20 years we will want to address billions of nanobots it'll be drama all over again | [07:02] |
RandalSchwartz | because that's how long it'll take if you gave every current ipv4 holder a /32
because that's how many there are. :) so I think "every isp gets a /32, and hands out /48 to each customer" is *quite* viable and still leaves us with 1000 years of addressing | [07:03] |
raphidae | exactly what the train of thought was for ipv4 | [07:04] |
RandalSchwartz | but with a lot fewer bits | [07:04] |
toddf | toddf wonders what this does to the addressing scheme if we start addressing celstial objects and galactic networks and other habitated planets | [07:04] |
greenskeleton | if we start living longer than that it might be tedious to learn yet another addressing system | [07:04] |
RandalSchwartz | by then we'll all be using holo-addressing anyway
who needs numbers when you have direct neuron communication | [07:04] |
greenskeleton | should solve the problem of relative time | [07:05] |
raphidae | ipv12 could be qubits ;) | [07:05] |
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toddf | https://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#six55
I think there is a typo. "the assigning organization is responsible" seems like it would make more sense if it said "the assigned organization is responsible" since the organization making the assignments is already responsible. heh. | [07:09] |
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RandalSchwartz | working on a nice freebsd zfs send/recv remote cloning tool
if this works the way I hope, I can start mirroring my ARP filesystems to texas for BCP | [11:20] |
twobitha1ker | Cool, I've been planning to set up something like that for doing backups of my remote systems to my storage box at home | [11:24] |
toddf | be careful. remote mirroring in realtime means remote mirroring of rm operations in realtime. | [11:27] |
RandalSchwartz | I'm also mirroring the snapshots | [11:28] |
toddf | ;-) | [11:28] |
RandalSchwartz | so the remotes will be as reliable as the locals | [11:28] |
toddf | you and your zfs snapshots.
someone needs to write a zfs alike filesystem that isn't gpl that isn't memory or cpu intensive. 'useable by mere mortals and all systems'. | [11:28] |
reardencode | maybe btrfs some day | [11:29] |
RandalSchwartz | see "not gpl" | [11:29] |
reardencode | oh right. | [11:29] |
jpalmer | one day, I'll probably jump on this zfs bandwagon. that'll probably be about the same tiem that zfs is the default FS ona standard freebsd install. | [11:30] |
RandalSchwartz | it's selectable on PCBSD now | [11:30] |
mike-burns | I'd also, for once, like a programming language to come with a doesItHalt function that takes a function and produces a boolean. Also not GPL. | [11:30] |
reardencode | I don't think you can get away from CPU intensive if you want COW and reliability of ZFS -- can get away from memory intensive by carefully designed trees maybe | [11:30] |
toddf | the day zfs becomes standard for freebsd is the day freebsd stops running on lower end systems. | [11:30] |
RandalSchwartz | and you can use PCBSD to install a "straight" freebsd | [11:30] |
toddf | I'll take donations of all the freebsd boxen that won't run freebsd then. ;-)
reardencode: I wouldn't know. but I also know that 256mb is not a recommended size for a filesystem such as zfs, and if the filesystem requires that much, its way too much of a pig for me. | [11:30] |
reardencode | toddf: agreed, I switched back to UFS when I moved to ARP. | [11:36] |
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RandalSchwartz | cool - got my script just about working
ran into trouble trying to use zfs send -R, so now I'm doing the recursion by hand | [13:49] |
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Dinosaur | hi, how long does it usually take to get a new "cdrom" installed?
my new account was enabled within an hour instead of 24-48, so I'm happy so far. | [14:25] |
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Dinosaur | hello? | [14:35] |
RandalSchwartz | normal answer. 24-48 hours. :)
but also possible sooner eventually, that'll be automated | [14:36] |
Dinosaur | Dinosaur rubs his eyes.
Is that you? Really you? of Perl fame? | [14:39] |
RandalSchwartz | indeed
I'm an ARP customer | [14:40] |
Dinosaur | sorry we didn't meet before. | [14:40] |
RandalSchwartz | your name sounds familiar | [14:41] |
Dinosaur | I'm wondering how to do VPN over ssh to get into my server. | [14:41] |
RandalSchwartz | have you uploaded your ssh key? | [14:41] |
Dinosaur | yes, it should be. I'll tell you why in privmsg. | [14:41] |
RandalSchwartz | ... http://www.arpnetworks.com/vps/management-console
then hit "t" and follow the instructions | [14:43] |
Dinosaur | thanks Randal. | [14:45] |
RandalSchwartz | and from your control panel, you can upload the ssh key
instructions are tehre. | [14:45] |
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fink | what's PERL? | [14:55] |
mike-burns | Long ago, in a Web bubble far, far away ... | [14:58] |
pjs | hah
anyone have second network interfaces on their VPS? just seems like the easiest way to create a small blocked off internal network without having to actually build a gateway/nat box well, easiest in terms of firewalling.. :) I can just skip a second interface instead of adding a bunch of special rules for special situations lol | [14:58] |
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fink | pjs: i use vlan interfaces for internal jails | [15:04] |
pjs | fink, ah nice.. and these can be used normally in pf? | [15:08] |
fink | yea
just like any other int | [15:08] |
pjs | awesome | [15:08] |
fink | unless you need carp/altq
but it's not usually an issue, you can workaround it | [15:11] |
jlgaddis | hey randal, what's your website again about the cruises? | [15:12] |
pjs | naw, I don't.. just want to make it easy on my firewall rules :) | [15:12] |
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greenskeleton | jlgaddis: http://www.insightcruises.com/ | [17:16] |
jlgaddis | gracias | [17:26] |
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RandalSchwartz | jlgaddis - hanging out with Neil now | [18:11] |
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fink | RandalSchwartz: how was your upgrade to 8.2? | [18:35] |
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Dinosaur | OpenBSD is now running at 4.9, thanks to Todd Fries for documenting the mpbios issue. | [19:00] |
jpalmer | RandalSchwartz: ping? | [19:13] |
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